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To: Peace will be here soon
I am not really sure what the fuss is all about ? The U.S is a nation built on immigrants and that's what makes it the greatest. Immigrants by nature are hard working and have a great enterpenreal spirit and the U.S has always been a magnet for those 'cream of the crop' people. Imagine if the early settlers in America refused to allow entry to any new ships that come to the new world lest they rob them from their 'jobs'.
U.S Labor laws require an employer to attest through a long a tedious process that no American is available and willing to take a job.
You can't force a hiring pattern on businesses through protectionism. This will lead to more and more of unregulated of-shoring which is a true black hole for the U.S economy. An immigrant is part of the 'system'. He pays taxes, contributes to Social Security funds, and is U.S consumer meaning that he contributes to creating new jobs. An off-shored resource is direct subtraction from U.S economy. The salary goes to another country, no taxes get collected, and the consumer buys his goods from a shop in Bangalore instead of shop in downtown L.A.
34 posted on 11/07/2005 11:00:56 AM PST by hyperdba
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To: hyperdba

"U.S Labor laws require an employer to attest through a long a tedious process that no American is available and willing to take a job."

U.S. Labor Laws !! LOL !!

You have no idea to what has been going on with these H1B visa program the past years. Or are just one of the people abusing the system to line your pockets on the backs of cheap imported labor. It`s one or the other.

We are NOT talking about "immigrants", we are talking about "temporary workers" , being brought into this country to do work cheaper than what an American worker will do the work for. Oh, it started out to fill a shortage in an industry, but morphed into a prostitution system for cheap labor.

The people are not here to become "citizens", they are here to work and then go home after their visa`s expire ( which many of them don`t do, and end up being here illegally ). These people are not "immigrants" ! This is the thing you need to understand.

The visa system on paper is one thing, the reality of the system is another. The prevailing wage, was thrown out the window years ago, the trying to hire an American first was also thrown out years ago as well. Loopholes have been made to appease business in getting these workers into their mix. The government looks the other way and does not regulate the program, period.

It has gotten to the point where its not even about the cheap labor anymore, its about control. Business can control an imported worker with all authority because the imported worker can be sent home on a whim by the company. They are completely at the mercy of their so called host, and they know it. Its like having your own little slave worker, only you can`t whip them when they get out of line, but you can put them on a plane and send them back to their hellhole of a country if they don`t do as you say.

You need to read the posts from people who have had their lives savaged by this program , and livelyhoods stolen from them because some politician wants a campaign contribution.

I have seen it firsthand myself, so I know a little about it.

For someone who spouts about government not regulating hiring practices of business and protectionism, you sure don`t have a problem with government helping an industry do it with this visa program !!!



35 posted on 11/07/2005 12:23:51 PM PST by Peace will be here soon ((Liberal definition of looting: "Self-help Humanitarian Aid."))
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