Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Reaganwuzthebest

Yes, you absolutely DO need to eventually regularize the illegals' CHILDREN. Otherwise you will get an hereditary class of illegals, who can be exploited without protection.

The reason these illegals are in America, 20 million of them, is that America is ravenously hungry for cheap labor on which social security taxes need not be paid, and which can't unionize or sue or otherwise cause problems. Illegals want the money, so they come to an America that, at all levels, from middle class people needing nannies, house cleaners and yard mowers to restaurants needing busboys, delivery staff and dishwashers, to distribution centers needing stockers - is willing to pay them to do all of these jobs. There are 20 million illegal aliens working in America, and probably 100 million Americans who benefit directly from their work (everyone benefits indirectly from it).

Democrats don't close the borders for their own reasons.
Republicans don't close the borders because, in the balance, they know that the economic interests of millions upon millions of people assisted by illegal labor WANT THAT ILLEGAL LABOR. Middle class people don't want to hire some ghetto queen to watch their kids or clean their house when they're not there. They'll trust Conchita with their house and kids, but not Boweesha. People in the suburbs will let Juan cut the grass, but aren't going to bus in Americans from the inner city projects out to see their nice houses and cut their grass (and come back later).
You know it and I know it.
Bitching about how it's illegal isn't going to change the economic realities on both sides of the border that drive illegal immigration.

And the Republicans are, uber alles, a party of economic realists. They are not going to deprive all of middle America of child and lawn care, and the big distribution industries and agriculture of hard laborers and stockboys. Illegals cost a quarter of what a legal costs, and for certain things, like child care for $10 an hour that working middle class people can afford, there are no Americans who will take that job for $10 an hour that you want anywhere near your home or kids.

So, the Republicans don't close the borders either, for that reason.
And so there are 20 million illegals working in America.
They have kids.

You cannot allow the establishment of an hereditary unprotected servile labor class. It's wrong.

So you've got to figure out a way to make sure that the irregular, illegal status does not become hereditary. Citizenship of those born here does that. That is regularization in the long term. You don't have to give citizenship to the illegals. But you can't let their status become hereditary unprotected workers. America uses - and needs - their labor. You can't, morally, turn that into an hereditary status of countryless laborers.

If you want to stop the influx, close the border with a guarded fence. Those who are inside the fence now, you can regularize or leave illegal. Their children will be citizens, and in a generation the problem of illegals will disappear.


171 posted on 11/04/2005 9:09:29 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 155 | View Replies ]


To: Vicomte13
The reason these illegals are in America, 20 million of them, is that America is ravenously hungry for cheap labor on which social security taxes need not be paid, and which can't unionize or sue or otherwise cause problems.

Many people are ravenously hungry for illicit drugs too but that doesn't make it right or excusable as long as it's against the law.

A simple solution to your concern about the children of illegals is to deport them with their family. I don't expect any new Congressional law on birthright citizenship to be overly retroactive if at all so those currently born in the US will have a right to petition their relatives in when they reach 18 but any future kids can go home with their parents when caught.

People in the suburbs will let Juan cut the grass, but aren't going to bus in Americans from the inner city projects out to see their nice houses and cut their grass (and come back later).

You know it and I know it.

No I don't know that and will never buy into it either. There are still large areas in the country where illegals aren't and the lawns are getting mowed, the hotel beds are getting made and those billions of hamburgers at McDonalds are being served.

For most of those using illegal cheap labor it's a convenience not a necessity and like those addicted to drugs they're eventually going to have to learn to live without it.

188 posted on 11/04/2005 9:27:22 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 171 | View Replies ]

To: Vicomte13
America is ravenously hungry for cheap labor on which social security taxes need not be paid, and which can't unionize or sue or otherwise cause problems

I have an idea, lets just cut off all the free social services, free education, and see how many stay.

297 posted on 11/04/2005 2:36:22 PM PST by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 171 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson