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To: highball
Precisely. Let the child retain citizenship, but eliminate the parent's ability to exploit that citizenship for his/her own benefit.

So are you going to deny that anchor baby citizen access to welfare programs like foodstamps and assistance to children programs that other minor citizens are eligble for? It seems then that you would be treating one citizen child very differently from another citizen child. If you deport the citizen child's illegal parents the child can either stay in America with legal relatives or go back to the parents country of origen. You are either denying the anchor citizen the opportunity for an American education or the opportunity to be raised by its parents.

I would prefer to not open these cans of worms by just giving the child the same citizenship as its parents.

149 posted on 11/04/2005 8:43:30 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: jackbenimble
I would prefer to not open these cans of worms by just giving the child the same citizenship as its parents.

The United States can grant or deny citizenship but it cannot make someone a citizen of another county. If this law was passed and stand up to judicial review and another country, say Mexico, decided to limit citizenship to those born within its borders, then a child born of illegal Mexican immigrants would be citizen of nowhere.

152 posted on 11/04/2005 8:48:07 AM PST by LWalk18
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To: jackbenimble
Precisely. Let the child retain citizenship, but eliminate the parent's ability to exploit that citizenship for his/her own benefit.

So are you going to deny that anchor baby citizen access to welfare programs like foodstamps and assistance to children programs that other minor citizens are eligble for? It seems then that you would be treating one citizen child very differently from another citizen child. If you deport the citizen child's illegal parents the child can either stay in America with legal relatives or go back to the parents country of origen. You are either denying the anchor citizen the opportunity for an American education or the opportunity to be raised by its parents.

Not at all. The child would need a guardian who is a US citizen or resident to care for it, or it could be placed in foster care, if it is to remain in the United States. If care is found, then the child would have all the same legal rights.

If care cannot be found or the parents are unwilling to give up custody, then the child can't stay. Citizenship does not confer an automatic right for children to live on their own in the US. The child would then have full rights to return as an adult.

So we can treat the children as we do all other US citizens while simultaneously denying the parents' right to exploit that citizenship. Just because the kid is a US citizen doesn't mean that the parents can get food stamps or welfare for themselves.

I would also change the laws making any illegal immigrants permanently ineligible for citizenship or residency, so the child can't sponsor the parent 18 years later. Again, the parent can't exploit the child's citizenship.

I would prefer to not open these cans of worms by just giving the child the same citizenship as its parents.

Then you're opening another can of worms - hospitals will be required to certify the citizenship of parents before issuing birth certificates. That seems to me a dicey proposition.

175 posted on 11/04/2005 9:10:48 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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