Shaped from clay [origin of life]

Nature Magazine ^ | 03 November 2005 | Philip Ball

[Doctor Stochastic]

The existence of airborne bacteria isn't relevant to the original post.

[Doctor Stochastic]

Simple water molecules floating in air "spontaneously" organize themselves into snowflakes, each of which is different (in isotopic content.)

[MineralMan]

"Simple water molecules floating in air "spontaneously" organize themselves into snowflakes, each of which is different (in isotopic content.)"

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So they do, indeed. I find this clay research to be very interesting. The earlier finding that clays can cause lipids to form hollow spheres is also very interesting.

I also find it fascinating that it took only six weeks for the seeded methanol to alter into more complex organic compounds.

This is an area of research that is producing some results. I'm sure it will continue to do so.

[Quark2005]

There are plenty of creationists around for you to fight with, so go get 'em.

Point taken. Please understand though, that when someone posts something like that on these posts, it usually is in "attack dog" mode. Likening spontaneous generation to abiogenesis is a typical creationist tactic, so please pardon me for misreading your motives.

And, you might want to switch to decaf.

Actually, I've had no caffeine yet today - I think that's the problem. I'll go have some coffee now. :^)

[Pharmboy]

No problem. We are on the same side.

[Pharmboy]

Please see above. In the future I will be very very careful about linking issues from the history of science to these threads. Very touchy group...

[metmom]

I kind of like Gen 1:24... "Then God said, 'Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind:...'" and Gen 2:7 "Then the Lordformed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man beccame a living being."

[Doctor Stochastic]

It's not the history (which is of great interest), it's the continuity of topic. Note that the experiments you described have been quoted for years as a disproof of evolution.

[Doctor Stochastic]

And there is so much clay around, and so many kinds of clay.

[RogueIsland]

See? See? This proves that Adam was made from dirt!

[Pharmboy]

Got it. It shan't happen again. I had not realized just how touchy this subject has become--among the science folks. I know now.

[Varda]

NABs interpretation of Chapter 2:7 "the LORD God formed man out of the clay of the ground and blew into his nostrils the breath of life, and so man became a living being."

If chapter 2 is stripped of its theology, it tells a story of Eve who evolved from Adam who evolved from the ground.

[Cincinatus]

[mikeus_maximus]

"Looking for reason"? Reason would suggest there's more than a small step between finding the letters of the aphabet lying around, and finding that the Encyclopedia Britannica had assembled itself from those basic elements. That, in a nutshell, is what Information Theory, and the ID vs. Evoluition debate, is all about.

To believe even the basic biomechanics of a cell happened by chance does, indeed, take extraordinary faith, much moreso the assembly of cells into patterns and higher life forms. Just as it takes faith that it all happened by accident, it takes blind faith to believe that "science" will some day find how that Grand Accident occured, and faith that it wasn't designed, despite appearances.

I realize some "scientific" minds hate to be accused of having faith, as they associate common connotations of the word with emotion rather than evidence. So let's call it what it is as practiced by evolutionists: blind trust in Something as yet undiscovered and undefined. At least Anthony Few was honest enough to see that much.

[Calpernia]

[wallcrawlr]

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[Right Wing Professor]

To believe even the basic biomechanics of a cell happened by chance does, indeed, take extraordinary faith, much moreso the assembly of cells into patterns and higher life forms. Just as it takes faith that it all happened by accident, it takes blind faith to believe that "science" will some day find how that Grand Accident occured, and faith that it wasn't designed, despite appearances.

No one believes a cell came together by chance. Find another red herring.

[Antonello]

I wonder how this will affect the calculations of the mathematical improbability crowd.

[Coyoteman]

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[Just mythoughts]

"If chapter 2 is stripped of its theology, it tells a story of Eve who evolved from Adam who evolved from the ground"


One might even discover there were different hues of "clay"!!!!!