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To: bordergal
Makes me real happy to live here in the USA. Both we and Europe have declining, aging populations. Both of us are subject to large crowds of immigrants. Both of us are struggling with the assimilation (or non-assimilation) of these large groups of people. The similiarities stop there. Our immigrants are from a Christian background, with a common heritage and set of values, even if there are some striking exceptions to that rule.

Pablo and Hector, in their worst moments are likely to get roaring drunk (after they have worked hard all day), ignore our silly bureaucratic maze of laws, and have their wives/kids show up in the ER for med treatment. They are NOT blowing up innocents in the name of Allah, or rioting, or creating "no go" zones.

I do believe we should get control of our borders and control of who is actually in the country, although my method of doing so differs from alot of freepers. However, we don't know how lucky we are to be facing the immigrant problems we DO have, rather than Europe.

61 posted on 11/02/2005 8:48:16 AM PST by chronic_loser
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To: chronic_loser

Do you really think we won't be getting more Muslim immigration here in the future, given demographic trends in the Muslim world, our spineless politicians, and a possible trend against Muslim immigration in Europe?
Have you seen the video of the Islamic Thinkers Society in NYC trampling on the American Flag? It can, and will happen here. Anywhere there is a muslim subpopulation, there are problems, which intensify as the population grows.

Also, US population isn't declining, unlike Europe, it is stable (without immigration). Uncontolled immigration drives down the native birth rate as wages and therefore the ability to raise a middle class child goes down (I can find the study, if you like), while it increases the birth rate of immigrants. Given the current rate of immigration, we'll have between 400 million and half a billion people in this country in another 40 years. Can you say "crappy quality of life"?

Pablo et al cost US taxpayers about 67 billion per year at the national level AFTER their "inputs" are included.

They also include a LOT of criminals, such as MS 13 (who like to discipline people with machetes), or the illegals who raped a ten year old girl in one of our local parks recently. Have you read the Transparency Institute's report on corruption in Mexico? We import that problem with every illegal who comes across our borders.
And don't forget the impacts of massive numbers of ESL students on the quality of education, check the California STAR test scores against ethnicity some time. Or the fact that not everyone who comes across that border is looking for work, but have hostile intentions. Check the stats on OTMS.

Have you heard about the North American Security Zone, which is a first step towards a North American Community (which means no borders)? Are you aware there is a plan to invest a lot of our tax dollars in Mexico, rather then here in the US?

Houston, we have a problem. Europe is just futher along on the same path we are treading.



65 posted on 11/02/2005 9:06:04 AM PST by bordergal
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To: chronic_loser
Actually, Mexico and Latin America have the largest growth rates for Islam. The Islamists go into the jugle regions and set up free "schools" and the Mexicans, etc. jump at the opportunity for a free education.
66 posted on 11/02/2005 9:08:10 AM PST by riri
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