[rdb3]

The only thing ID'ers have is cheap attacks. Never any substance.

Is that a fact? Look at what you wrote in #7. Is "If they want to make their kids stupid, so be it. After all, when they grow up, my kids will need someone to wash their toilets." a statement full of substance and was not a cheap attack?

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[2ndreconmarine]

a statement full of substance and was not a cheap attack?

You are correct. It was a cheap attack.

The difference is we have substance too. My point was that the IDers have only the cheap attack.

I will not repeat endlessly the same posts that have been made here. However, Patrick Henry's list of links page has most of the central ones, including Ichneumons rather extensive posts on the subject. One of his posts has literally more academic content than the entire output of the ID community.

[Tribune7]

“All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”
--Arthur Schopenhauer