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To: Amos the Prophet

"Personal attack, insult and belittling seem to be the major tools of the anti ID crowd."

Actually Amos, that was not a personal attack at all. I went after the substance of your argument (what little there was). It's precisely this kind of irrational statement that led me to question your reading comprehension.

But since you decided to not address my actual point, I will assume that you agree with me that your comment was gibbrish, and that ToE is derived from evidence and ID is a collection of debunked attacks on that novel theory.

Glad to see we're in agreement.

Here is a tip, just saying that I attacked you, does not make it so. Attacking you would have been calling you illiterate. Asking if you are illiterate was meant to point up the irrational nature of your post.

There is a difference.

But since you aggree with me on the scientific vacuity of ID I am happy to have changed your mind.

And just to not let it stand, there is no more or less to ID than my mind allows. I will bet any sum of money you wish that I know quite a bit about ID. Believe me, there is nothing to it. It's old, bad philosophy, wrapped in information age marketing. It's God of gaps. Now if you believe that your God is not big enough to exist outside the gaps in the knowledge of science, that's fine. But I personally think God is much bigger than that. Is your faith so weak that you need evidence to support it?

Well, I would ask you that question, but you seem to agree.


110 posted on 11/02/2005 12:06:03 PM PST by occamsrapier
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To: occamsrapier
And just to not let it stand, there is no more or less to ID than my mind allows. I will bet any sum of money you wish that I know quite a bit about ID.

A few years ago someone posed as a creationist for quite some time, just to show how easy it is.

I'll bet there is not a single ID advocate or creationist posting on FR that could post an acceptable definition of evolution, or post for an entire day from the evolution point of view without getting caught. They simply don't know anything about the object of their scorn.

113 posted on 11/02/2005 12:20:07 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: occamsrapier
But since you decided to not address my actual point, I will assume that you agree with me that your comment was gibbrish, and that ToE is derived from evidence and ID is a collection of debunked attacks on that novel theory.

Simply more of the same put downs, insults and condescension. Mainstream science is getting a bad name because of the aire of superiority coming from those who deride any thinking but their own. The earth does move, my friend. No amount of burning at the stake of your contempt will change that.

ID is a viable, meanngful and perfectly legitimate approach to understanding nature. If you dig below the surface of any significant research on evolutionary theory you will very quickly be confronted with speculation about the underlying forces determinative of evolution. ID is nothing more than an attempt to get at some of the important questions about natural life processes.

DUH is not an adequate answer to the question, "Why evolution?"

114 posted on 11/02/2005 1:14:00 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (THIS IS WAR AND I MEAN TO WIN IT.)
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