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To: Diamond
A materialist is not a Creationist. A Deist believes the world was created, but they are also not Creationists. You have provided no evidence that any of the Founding Fathers were Creationists. I have provided evidence that your statement that they all were is most certainly false.

I'd let your generalization stand if you said that "most of the Founding Fathers were Christian", or the fall back position you have now retreated to that "Christian religious,legal and cultural institutions and thought" under-gird the foundation of America. Absolutely correct. But when you LIE and say that they were all Creationists I have to bring out a few inconvenient (for you) facts.

And Thomas Jefferson was very much a Deist in philosophy, a materialist in regards to the supernatural, but considered himself a Christian (albeit one who denied the divinity of Christ, the virgin birth, and the Trinity). So your deviating from the Creationist party line by admitting he was influenced by Deist thought; they usually try to claim he was a Christian.
40 posted on 11/01/2005 10:30:10 AM PST by USConstitutionBuff
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To: USConstitutionBuff
A Deist believes the world was created, but they are also not Creationists.

What??

You have provided no evidence that any of the Founding Fathers were Creationists.

You think that the Founders who were Christians did not believe that God created the universe? Even deists believed that God created the universe and then left it to run on it's own.

I think it is sufficient to show that the Founders were Christians to prove that they believed in creation, and t. A creationist is someone who believes in creation.

Cordially,

43 posted on 11/01/2005 10:58:42 AM PST by Diamond (Qui liberatio scelestus trucido inculpatus.)
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