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Toronto Catholic Cathedral Fundraiser to Support Condom-Pushing Effort in Africa
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | October 31, 2005 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 11/01/2005 6:01:53 AM PST by LifeSite News

TORONTO, October 31, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - On November 10, 2005, Toronto's St. Michael's Cathedral will be holding a fundraiser for an event sponsored by St. Michael's Catholic Hospital to provide "'Life with Dignity' to people affected by HIV/AIDS in the developing world." However, Catholics and pro-family groups are concerned that the St. Michael's Hospital fundraising project, called "Angels in Africa", contravenes the teaching of the Catholic Church and the best health options for people threatened with AIDS by promoting condom usage.

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1 posted on 11/01/2005 6:01:53 AM PST by LifeSite News
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To: LifeSite News

more stupid leading the stupid

AIDS in Africa is near epidemic proportions due to needle re-use

It is too late for those who have it- but they could control it with a good supply of FRESH NEEDLES


2 posted on 11/01/2005 6:06:45 AM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: LifeSite News

Condom pushing? In what way?


3 posted on 11/01/2005 6:14:20 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: LifeSite News

How about an effort in pushing the GOOD NEWS? That alone will save millions from AIDS.


4 posted on 11/01/2005 6:15:42 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: 2banana
How about an effort in pushing the GOOD NEWS? That alone will save millions from AIDS.

You are correct.
However, the GOOD NEWS is the hard path. It requires dumping prostitution, drug addiction, promiscuity and adultery, that is, self-control.

5 posted on 11/01/2005 6:18:53 AM PST by starfish923 ( Socrates: It is never right to do wrong.)
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To: Mr. K
AIDS in Africa is near epidemic proportions due to needle re-use

Impossible! We just sent Fourteen Billion of our Dollars to Africa to stop the spread of AIDS.

6 posted on 11/01/2005 6:19:22 AM PST by Cagey (Conservatism is a movement, not a political party.)
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To: Cagey

yeah-I know.. I wonder where all that money went?


7 posted on 11/01/2005 6:28:25 AM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: LifeSite News
Beyond the fact that the Catholic Church officially opposes condom distribution, observers are wondering why the Catholic organizations would be pursuing a program of condom distribution when such methods have been blamed for worsening the AIDS crisis in Africa rather than stemming it.

Because they ain't really Catholic. To be Catholic is to be in communion with Catholic church. It is OK to not be in communion if you wish but you should drop the name "Catholic" if you want to be honest. That is where Protestant comes from. Protesting the beliefs they disagree with.

8 posted on 11/01/2005 6:35:07 AM PST by badpacifist ( Numbers 22 :27-31 If your ass won't move there may be an angel in the way)
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To: LifeSite News; thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; mercygrace; Laissez-faire capitalist; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

Yup, the "Catholic Church" is at it again - promoting sin, promoting evil, and while they're at it, promoting stupidity and yes, death - since condoms don't prevent AIDS that well.

Take note I am NOT bashing Real Catholics, the Church's actual teachings or sincere priests or lay Catholics one iota. Just the liberal/leftist/lavender mafia fools who dress up as Catholics and play at religion while having their own plans, their own wills, and their own agenda which have nothing to do with God's will, plans, or agenda.

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.


9 posted on 11/01/2005 7:42:47 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: badpacifist
Because they ain't really Catholic. To be Catholic is to be in communion with Catholic church. It is OK to not be in communion if you wish but you should drop the name "Catholic" if you want to be honest.

As a long time atheist, turned Protestant, and in the middle of conversion to Catholicism, who grew up in a largely "Catholic" area on the east coast, let me say that the Church is in part to blame for this problem. There are endless numbers of people who go through the motions of getting confirmed, and even getting married in the Church, who otherwise have nothing to do with it. I know, they were all my friends from childhood until now.

One of my best friends will say that he is Catholic (becauase his parents were, and he was confirmed) but hasn't been to confession since he was a kid and will say that he doesn't even think that he believes in God. Catholicism has been passed down somewhat as a cultural rather than an actual relgious distinction in many communities. The result is tons of people who go around calling themselves Catholic even though they aren't really any such thing.

The Church has done nothing really to go against this. After all, the Church wants the kids to go to Sunday School, be confirmed, etc.

It also doesn't help of course that many Priests don't seem to want to reinforce church teachings. When I was the best man in the wedding of the best friend mentioned above, at the rehersal the Priest said when it would be my turn (after the bride and groom) to take communion. I said that I wasn't Catholic. He said "Oh, it doesn't matter". I said, well, I won't take it, and didn't.

Sorry for the rambling post, just wanted to get some thoughts on the matter out there.

10 posted on 11/01/2005 7:56:52 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: fanfan; GMMAC

This might be of interest to you guys.


11 posted on 11/01/2005 10:56:30 AM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Rodney King
at the rehersal the Priest said when it would be my turn (after the bride and groom) to take communion. I said that I wasn't Catholic. He said "Oh, it doesn't matter". I said, well, I won't take it, and didn't.

Your intellectual honesty is appreciated. As for the priest ... Where's Tomas de Torquemada now that we really need him?

12 posted on 11/01/2005 11:01:23 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: LifeSite News; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; ...

Canada Ping!

Please FReepmail me to be added to or removed from this ping list.


13 posted on 11/01/2005 11:07:17 AM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: LifeSite News

My kids go to a Catholic School. They used to do the UNICEF thing at Halloween until we filled them in on what some of the money is used for.


14 posted on 11/01/2005 11:14:18 AM PST by Grig
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To: Rodney King

Thanks and you're right I did want to get some thought out there. I love my faith. One of the wonders and mystery is how many Catholics never even get to know the fullness of the faith. The even greater wonder is that God allows it. Maybe from Gods perspective its a lot easier to understand but man I sure hope He grades on a curve for their sake. There is a simpleness to many Catholics but if they are ever in trouble the first place you find 'em is in church on their knees.


15 posted on 11/01/2005 2:40:20 PM PST by badpacifist ( Numbers 22 :27-31 If your ass won't move there may be an angel in the way)
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