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Prince Charles to plead Islam's cause to Bush
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Posted on 10/30/2005 4:51:06 PM PST by mhuye

The Prince of Wales will try to persuade George W Bush and Americans of the merits of Islam this week because he thinks the United States has been too intolerant of the religion since September 11.

The Prince, who leaves on Tuesday for an eight-day tour of the US, has voiced private concerns over America's "confrontational" approach to Muslim countries and its failure to appreciate Islam's strengths.

The Duchess of Cornwall will accompany her husband The Prince raised his concerns when he met senior Muslims in London in November 2001. The gathering took place just two months after the attacks on New York and Washington. "I find the language and rhetoric coming from America too confrontational," the Prince said, according to one leader at the meeting.

It is understood that Prince Charles did not - and does not - believe that the actions of 19 hijackers should tarnish the reputation of hundreds of millions of law-abiding Muslims around the world.

Khalid Mahmood, the Labour MP for Birmingham Perry Bar, was also at the meeting at St James's Palace. "His criticism of America was a general one of the Americans not having the appreciation we have for Islam and its culture," he said.

Mr Mahmood and other Muslims present stressed that Prince Charles did not go so far as to criticise the US-led invasion of Afghanistan in October 2001. More recently, he has been careful not to express his views on Iraq.

The Prince also spoke of his sympathy for America after the terrorist attacks that claimed the lives of almost 3,000 people. He said he wanted to promote better relations between the different religions of the world.

Those present at the meeting in 2001 included Sir Iqbal Sacrani, the secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, and Hashir Faruqi, the chief editor of Impact International, an Islamic affairs magazine.

Prince Charles, who is about to embark on his first official foreign tour since his marriage to the Duchess of Cornwall, wants Americans - including Mr Bush - to share his fondness for Islam. He has agreed to attend a seminar on religions at Georgetown University, Washington, on Thursday: the only event where he will not be accompanied by the Duchess.

"The seminar will look at how faith groups can alleviate social problems in their community," a royal aide said.

The Prince and Duchess will attend a lunch and dinner with President Bush and his wife, Laura, at the White House on Wednesday.

Prince Charles has done more than any other member of the Royal Family in history to understand Islam. He said in 1994 that when he became Supreme Governor of the Church of England, he would rather be "defender of faiths" than "defender of the faith".

A year earlier Prince Charles made a speech, acclaimed throughout the Arab world, on relations between Islam and the West. He urged the West to overcome its "unthinkable prejudices" about Islam and its customs and laws.

He spoke warmly of the West's debt to the culture of Islam and distanced moderate Muslims from misguided militants. "Extremism is no more the monopoly of Islam than it is the monopoly of other religions, including Christianity," he said.

A senior aide to Prince Charles said yesterday: "The Prince has never promoted political messages around religion. He has simply said that he wants a greater tolerance and understanding of each other religions which will, in turn, promote better relations between faiths."

A spokesman for Clarence House declined to discuss the Prince's comments four years ago. "We never discuss private conversations," he said.

Prince Charles has been wooing the US media ahead of next week's tour when he will visit New York, Washington and San Francisco. It is considered a risky venture because Diana, Princess of Wales, who died eight years ago, was so revered in the US.

In an interview to be shown on CBS's 60 Minutes today, he speaks of his desire to enrich people's lives through his work. "I only hope that when I am dead and gone they might appreciate it a little more," he jokes.


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KEYWORDS: princecharles; princeupchuck; royals; royalvisit; stuckonstupid
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To: mhuye
I ran across the following this afternoon.

Wahi: the Supernatural Basis of Islam

I highly recommend it to those of you who are interested in an analysis of Muhammed's mental disorder. It is written from a Hindu perspective. There are a few paragraphs with which I disagree, but I believe they have the prophet pegged. If you don't have time to read it now, please bookmark.

41 posted on 10/30/2005 5:10:24 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Uncle Vlad

There must be one or two of them still living in exile somewhere in France.


42 posted on 10/30/2005 5:10:31 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: hershey
Charles is on a fool's errand, but the shoe fits perfectly.

Well said!!!

43 posted on 10/30/2005 5:12:07 PM PST by makoman
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To: mhuye

Prince Harry's swastika-wearing. now makes sense.


44 posted on 10/30/2005 5:12:27 PM PST by eakole
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To: mhuye
he thinks the United States has been too intolerant of the religion since September 11.

Have they been more tolerant of us since 9-11 and I just missed it?

45 posted on 10/30/2005 5:12:44 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: mhuye
The Prince of Wales will try to persuade George W Bush and Americans of the merits of Islam this week because he thinks the United States has been too intolerant of the religion since September 11.

This from the polo chump. He spends more time playing polo and tending gardens, while the rest of the free world is going after the Islamofascists.

46 posted on 10/30/2005 5:14:12 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: Gay State Conservative

Hopefully, he will pass before his mum, eh?


47 posted on 10/30/2005 5:21:48 PM PST by MCCRon58 (Just say NO to Democrats!)
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To: mhuye
Dear Prince Charles,

Please do not bother.

Beheadings
Suicidal Fanatics
Intolerance
Ignorance
Mad Mullahs
Threats directed at our nation.
Conversion or death.
The legacy of Islam is well known to us here.
48 posted on 10/30/2005 5:26:33 PM PST by A message ( Being a "Progressive" means never having to be truthful to yourself)
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To: mhuye

Bush's response to the British Brat: "Go home before I bitchslap your Grandma!"


49 posted on 10/30/2005 5:28:12 PM PST by splint (...another proud member of the sand to glass club!)
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To: Uncle Vlad

Perhaps Mummy should keep him home.


50 posted on 10/30/2005 5:30:34 PM PST by abclily
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To: mhuye
I propose a million American lineup along the Prince's carriage route and salute him with a mass mooning just like Braveheart's to the English in battle.
51 posted on 10/30/2005 5:35:04 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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To: Maceman
Well, here is something intresting...

http://www.exodus2006.com/fab/other.htm

52 posted on 10/30/2005 5:35:31 PM PST by Xenophon450 (In a world of spoonfed emotion, intelligence can save.)
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To: mhuye

Plead what you want, Charlie. I plead for the majority of the male citizens of the UK (including you) to realize that they have cajones and start behaving like men before its too late.


53 posted on 10/30/2005 5:38:26 PM PST by 43north (If you're not liberal at 20 you have no heart. If you're still liberal at 40 you have no brain.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Inbred moron - perfect!

Just shows that a title and a bloodline do not received wisdom make.

Even more pathetic - he's a morganatic prince. His mother (hers lived to 101) will insure that he never becomes King.

Should have stuck to his gardening.

We Jews and we Christians need no lectures on political correctness about the Religion of Murder, especially from His Royal Sillyness.


54 posted on 10/30/2005 5:40:45 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: Past Your Eyes

Amen to fixing up his own religion ... I should think also he should try to go down to the Muslim communities right there in London and have a friendly tea with these folks.

C ya Charlie


55 posted on 10/30/2005 5:43:44 PM PST by DHC-2
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To: mhuye

Go home, a-hole.


56 posted on 10/30/2005 5:44:27 PM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: DoctorMichael

Reading about this puffed up buffoon's plan to get all of the religions to respect and love each other...

reminds me of Clinton's newest endeavors to bring about world peace...all by himself...

The egos of some people totally dwarf their sense of reality....

PUH-leeze...Chuckie and Bubba...why don't you both go buy an island somewhere and do the world a favor..and stay there.


57 posted on 10/30/2005 5:58:33 PM PST by Txsleuth (I am the real TXSLEUTH...please freepmail me if you doubt it.)
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To: mhuye

In a real way I detect an enormous self pity in Charles.

Charles was raised in an era when the British monarchy was expected to embody stiff upper lip, iron self control, emotionally dead Victorian public school values. It takes a tremendous amount of emotional deprivation (like removing maternal love from his childhood) to produce a cold fish like Prince Charles. But all along he was told that it was his duty so suck it up and dry your eyes.

But what does he find ? People loved the Diana who wore her heart on her sleeve and they didn't love him. Maybe he had been raised to embody values that nobody wanted or believed in anymore. Maybe all that emotional deprivation and unhappiness was for nothing.

Charles strikes me as a man who feels cheated, betrayed. He was sold a bill of goods all his life and it was for nothing.


58 posted on 10/30/2005 6:03:10 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: mhuye

"Prince" Charles is a horse's ass and his forefathers would turn over in their graves listening to his inane drivel.

He might as well try to convince us his current equine-faced consort is as good looking as the woman he drove into depression and divorce.

Britain and western Europe are Christian territory. They HAVE been so for well over 1000 years. Yet he is advocating that the very prople who would NEVER permit proselytzing of Chistianity in ANY of their own countries, be extened the red carpet in his - and OURS.

Islam is a cult not a religion. Cults kill people who seek to leave the group, cults kill people who attempt to GET people to leave the group, cults kill people who criticize the group.

Islam does ALL of this and more. In addition, in EVERY country in which it is the "official religion" its adherents persecute followers of other faiths openly or make life so miserable for them that thay are religated to second class citizenship.

Yet this horse's ass deigns to come here and spout the kind of drivel we all too often practise, unfortunately on our own, i.e. that Islam is just another religion like any other. Ask the Bahais, the Copts, the Sikhs, the Hindus, the Buddhists, the Zoroastrians, the Chaldean Christians, and the Jews about "peaceful" Islam.

They are all either killers or people who want to convert us to their belief system.

What planet is this guy on???


59 posted on 10/30/2005 6:08:36 PM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Criminal Number 18F
Hard to believe that Chuckie is actually a descendant of George III . . . who was a bit chuckleheaded himself but that can easily be blamed on the royal physicians' maltreatment of his porphyria . . .

I think Farmer George would be horrified at the antics of his 5G grand-nephew.

60 posted on 10/30/2005 6:09:25 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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