Posted on 10/29/2005 2:06:03 PM PDT by advance_copy
Why not FAX that to Senator Roberts and to Congressman Duncan Hunter? Thanks in advance....
But if a Indian player gets traded to the Yankees he will play his heart out for the Yankees and do his best to defeat the Indians. And if he gets traded back to the Indians he will do his best to defeat the Yankees.
Most people in politics are players. Ask Dick Morris how this works. Morris did a fantastic job electing Jesse Helms, Trent Lott and Bill Clinton. The fact that Morris had worked for Helms did not mean he was disloyal when he worked for Clinton. Not until Clinton fired him.. he wasn't.
Players will play for any team that will put them in a major league game. Nearly all politicians will too. Bush 41 and Clinton are both players. That is why they can now be buddies. It is the way the world works.
You think like a fan. You will never understand what is actually taking place until you learn to think like a player.
"This isn't about politics it's about money and corruption."
I agree with you. There were a lot of people who probably didn't want to see the Iraq gravy train derailed. I think that's fundamental to understanding the World-wide pre-war situation.
Some players throw games. See the "dirty sox" of 1917, for instance.
There is nothing illegal, nor immoral, about firing the political appointees of your opponent.
It is the easiest and most effective means of changing the nature of political institutions to share your own political vision.
It is extremely foolish not to do so because you are left with a cadre of embedded opponents who will do everything within their power to make Bush policies ineffective, and make Bush look foolish or even set Bush up with legal liabilities if at all possible.
The CIA is institutionally hostile to Bush. That needn't have been so.
The State department is institutionally hostile to Bush. That needn't have been so.
The Attorney general's office and the FBI are institutionally hostile to Bush.
The government is run by these people. It is not run by President Bush.
Good point. Few Boxing fans realize how much the two fighters in the ring generally appreciate each other and how much they depise the spectators.
If you think Valerie and her clique at the CIA are such a stellar group, please see if you can get her to answer my questions:
Why did the CIA provide intelligence to the previous administration about WMDs in Iraq and then this rogue group suddenly disown all that intelligence from the 1990s?
If Iraq was no threat, then why did my son deploy seven times into harms way from 1997-2001 to protect the no-fly zone?
If Saddam wasn't a threat, then why did we require our military going to the no-fly zones to take anthrax injections or face serious consequences? (we lost a lot of good people who weren't willing to get those experimental vaccines, remember Cohen getting one to "prove" they were safe?)
and finally,
With Saddam's Iraq in the center of the Middle East defying 17 UN resolutions to disarm, with us in a war on terror.....and the no-fly airports in Saudi and Turkey no longer available to us, Tell me Valerie, your intelligence suddenly thinks we should just let him ferment there because of your one stinking report? I don't think so!
re: "fair game"
Joe Wilson made his wife part of the story the moment he began spouting off to the press. Why? Because, as the Senate Intel Committee's report affirmed (against Joe Wilson's lies), she played an instrumental role in suggesting him for the Niger mission and then arranging the meeting which launched his mission. When trying to understand the grand implausibility of this whole story, of how a Bush-hating, Gore and Kerry loving nitwit like Joe Wilson had ever been put into such a sensitive 'mission' in the first place (which has appeared more and more like a set-up by current and former CIA people determined to war with the WH) Valerie Pflame plays a central role. "Fair game" can connote different things to different people - a milder interpretation is that she is fair game for journalists to try to write about her, given that she played a critical role in putting this whole sordid story in motion. A harsher view would be that she should be subject to harsh criticism and political attacks, which is also justifiable given that she is part of a cabal working to subvert the elected government of the United States. However, given that all of the public-record statements are from her pompous blowhard of a husband, he should be the main focus of attention. Still, it will always be relevant to ask "what did Valerie know and do, and when did she know it and do it?"
Some people are seriously delusional. I realize that bureaucrats eventually believe themselves to be in a different social category, but whether that category is superior or inferior to the normal person's is open to debate.
I agree with the statement, but perhaps not in the way intended.
Does anyone else remember the (privileged) long-term congressman nutcase who used to steal airline food? He thought he was special too. I wouldn't want him visiting my dog's doghouse.
By whom, pray tell? By those who consider themselves in the "same league" as the manipulative wife?
She placed herself (by all accounts) in the middle of the future mudfight.
Lots to think about there.
Heh heh heh. So where's the guy's hammer. heh heh heh.
I agree with your diagnosis of the situation, but I think that there are relatively few "political appointee" positions at the top of each department. Then there are all sorts of career civil service positions which are called "Senior Executive Service" as I recall.
Perhaps Bush could have replaced more people, but I think the vast majority of federal civilian positions are subject to the strictures of civil service regulations. Career people who go into State and CIA in recent decades must be predominantly liberal to begin with - I've known several who were/are ultra-liberal, and I've never known a single conservative to express much interest in a career with State (though some in CIA). It's a very intractable problem....
Didn't an Italian operative confess last week to doing it at the behest of the French? Hell, the French may have actually provided him with the fake documents, since they control the mine in question.
alot, if not most,of these people inside the structure are career people - not political appointees. they have to be rooted out systematically.
Absolutely. We should find out who was playing games with these forged documents.
Looks like the CIA is an arm of the Democratic Socialist Party
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