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To: John Robertson

The thread is not about abortion, but unilaterally shaming women (and children) for unwed procreation is how we got in this abortion quagmire to begin with.

If BOTH parents were socially and legally expected to support and raise the children they co-create, we would not see such high abortion rates, nor would we we see so many unmarried parents.

If, as a parent, one were expected and required to support and care for a child he/she begets, what is the point of remaining unmarried? Both parents would realize it will be easier to pull together than to support/raise the child separately.

Creating a child creates OBLIGATIONS on the parentS to the child. We need to revamp our social and legal systems to this reality. Going back to an earlier unilateral shaming system which backfired and which was socially unjust to children isn't the answer. Or in the words of a pretty bright guy ...

"The problems that exist in the world today cannot be solved by the level of thinking that created them." ___ Albert Einstein


182 posted on 10/28/2005 3:30:46 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Many would argue that what has changed is not unwed women becoming pregnant,that has always happened, but the fact that men will not marry them if they do become pregnant. Years ago it was done as a sense of duty and honor. Men sorely lack that honor today.


197 posted on 10/28/2005 9:56:19 PM PDT by HelloooClareece (Anagram of New York Times....... Monkeys Write. (I Still have a water bucket))
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To: Lorianne
"If, as a parent, one were expected and required to support and care for a child he/she begets, what is the point of remaining unmarried? Both parents would realize it will be easier to pull together than to support/raise the child separately."

Parents are both expected to support the children they beget, at least legally. But you can't require things like commitment, honor and love, and ultimately, these are the qualities that are missing in the relationships that produce the majority of illegitimate children.

256 posted on 10/30/2005 9:35:36 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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