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FITZGERALD DOCUMENTS RELEASED
US Dept. of Justice | oct. 28, 2005 | Patrick Fitzgerald

Posted on 10/28/2005 10:14:53 AM PDT by blogblogginaway

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1028051plame1.html


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cialeak; doj
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To: js1138

> I'd go with the Ollie North defense. It was the right thing to do.

That's the way I'm seeing it. But such action still requires that justice be served on him. If he deceived the GJ, he should be held accountable. But even so I still thank him profusely, if he was the one who defused the Wilson-bomb.


121 posted on 10/28/2005 6:36:44 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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To: XEHRpa

I'm thinking nullification, depending on the details. As I said, we haven't seen the defense.


122 posted on 10/28/2005 6:47:13 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: Yo-Yo
BFD.

Really! It's not like he had sex with a ho, man!

All this guy was lying about was a conspiracy to reveal classified information for political purposes. Just political espionage perpetrated against the People of the United States of America for petty, unimportant reasons with little consequence. A war -- big whoop. Not like it was some kind of BJ or something, I don't understand the big deal: there have been no allegations of peyronne's here.

Let's all ignore this hype.

123 posted on 10/28/2005 6:57:06 PM PDT by Yeti ("He might be drunk!")
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To: onyx

Thanks, onyx. I am with you. I will read this tomorrow morning when I haven't had two glasses of wine.


124 posted on 10/28/2005 7:03:05 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Dems_R_Losers; dirtboy
......Either Libby lied or Cooper and Russert lied.

Exactly my thought. I find no problem believing that 2 reporters would lie to cover their butts.

125 posted on 10/28/2005 7:14:28 PM PDT by GWfan
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To: Miss Marple; onyx

I was able to watch the presser while on the phone with a former poster who is an expert on the matter, and even her comments haven't helped me figure it out.


126 posted on 10/28/2005 7:14:55 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (The Florida Police Benevolent Association proudly supports Charlie Crist for Governor!)
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To: demlosers; All

I want a reporter to go on TV right now and start a diatribe about how much money was spent on this pile of steaming BS.

Anyone have a running count of the money?? I would like it brought up every time the indictment is mentioned.

What a waste of MY tax dollars.


127 posted on 10/28/2005 7:17:33 PM PDT by GWfan
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To: Shermy
OK, Libby used "Valerie Wilson"

Who told Miller "F/Plame?"

And who told her "Victoria Wilson"?

128 posted on 10/28/2005 9:39:13 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Jenny Hatch; Shermy
"that official asked LIBBY whether information about Wilson's trip could be shared with the press to rebut the allegations that the Vice President had sent Wilson. Libby responded that there would be complications at the CIA in disclosing that information publicly"

This observation details the difficult situation that Libby was dealing with.

Wilson was double-dealing from behind the shield his wife's employment created for him.

The administration couldn't tell the truth about Wilson's lies without revealing Plame's employment.

There is something systemically wrong when CIA employees are allowed to act in extra-legal fashion with impunity -- not only in the U.S., but counter to the country's interests.

At the very least, this is NOT whistle-blowing -- but might be construed as a violation of the Hatch Act.

129 posted on 10/28/2005 10:02:33 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: demlosers
Hey Fritz was Plame on the NOC list Yes or NO?

We're dealing with two different definitions of "covert".

The rule is "once a NOC, always a NOC".

Thus, by the CIA's internal operational standards, Plame was "covert" -- but inactive.

But the 1982 IIPA relies on a specific legal definition of "covert" -- and Plame did not meet that standard.

Since she was on the operational side of CIA, her employment would be accurately described as "classified".

130 posted on 10/28/2005 10:09:21 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: blogblogginaway

bttt


131 posted on 10/28/2005 10:11:48 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: js1138

For starters, Andrea Mitchell knew all about Plame, long before the Novack column and she's said so, on T.V.!


132 posted on 10/28/2005 10:21:09 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: okie01
"Since she was on the operational side of CIA, her employment would be accurately described as "classified"."

OK, but "classified" as what? The term classified is ambiguous by itself. Information in governemnt is divided into classes or classifications.

As examples:
Top Secret
Secret
Confidential
For Official Use Only
Restricted
NOFORN(Not For Foreign Release)
Sensitive
Unclassified

I doubt her current/last job title at the CIA working as an analyst was classified as anything but Unclassified.

Plame may work with classified information above Unclassified, but that does not make the knowledge of her working at Langley a secret.

133 posted on 10/28/2005 10:58:24 PM PDT by demlosers
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