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To: Shermy
"Tough to tell. But the indictment is not as flimsy as many posters here paint it as. It looks pretty solid to me, and I've not heard a SPECIFIC argument or strategy for beating the rap."

Challenge the reporters' memories.

That's the he said, she said defense. It's the only one I see.

The indictment hinges on Libby telling the GJ that he (Libby) first heard of Plame's CIA status from reporters. Libby told that story a number of times, in a number of different ways.

But the facts seem pretty solid that Libby first heard of Plame's "stuff" via personal, independent inquiry to the CIA - plus hearing it from VPOTUS, who got it from the CIA. Those independent inquiries were June 11, 12, 2003. Discussions with Russert, Cooper, Miller were June 23 (Miller) to July 10 (Russert) to July 12 (Cooper). All in all, a tight time frame of events, wehre he's apt to form a clear impression of who knew what, first.

His testimony to the GJ in November 2003 was that he heard it FIRST, from reporters.

On it's face, it looks like a tough rap to beat.

582 posted on 10/28/2005 12:45:50 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

IN parts its hard to fathom whether Libby is being charged with lying to reporters.

Some of the excerpts sound like he's admitting covering up his sources to reporters and admitting to the FBI he did such.

BTW, did anyone ask him whether he spoke to cheney about Wilson? No allegation he denied that conversation.


583 posted on 10/28/2005 12:49:49 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Cboldt

"His testimony to the GJ in November 2003 was that he heard it FIRST, from reporters."

What page is that on? To me it read he told reporters he first heard it from reporters and admitted that to the FBI.

Where's the questions to him about talking with Cheney? Did he deny those?


587 posted on 10/28/2005 12:52:03 PM PDT by Shermy
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What irritates me so much is Fitzmoron using a million dollars of taxpayer money to get his fifteen minutes of fame.

What a waste of time and money.

Having said that, there is no excuse for lying to a grand jury. Hopefully, he did not.


592 posted on 10/28/2005 12:55:34 PM PDT by LaGrone
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To: Cboldt

Libby should have said from the start. "I think I made a mistake in revealing Plame's name i was not thinking when i revealed that information." "My intent was to show the incorrect conclusions of Mr. Wilson but in the course of the conversation i inadvertently outed Ms. Plame." His big mistake was in trying to cover it up and he did not do a good job of doing it. I hope he gets off because the whole affair is total BS.


601 posted on 10/28/2005 1:04:52 PM PDT by Courdeleon02
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