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To: southlake_hoosier
Um, what port would you suggest--year 'round?

Google ANWR and find it on the map. The area in question is right next door.

How much of the year is the deep water open around there?

Or are you going to haul natural gas across Alaska, from north to south on trucks?

The price went up, people cut their usage, there was a supply, supply and demand worked, so where is the beef?

The products from the largest refinery complex (in the Virgin Islands)in the hemisphere have to be brought in by tanker. The offshore unloading facilities were shut down for the hurricanes. This equipment does not run itself. People operate it, maintain it, and keep things from self-destructing. How much would you want to make to sit our a cat 4 or 5 hurricane on a platform somewhere offshore? If you have any sense, you realize no paycheck is worth anything if you are not around to cash it.

And as a reminder, the oil industry employs one heck of a lot of Americans, right here at home, where we produce about 45% of our petroleum needs, in spite of NIMBYs, and ECOWHACKOS, and the US Government.

Few industries are as good at getting the job done, whatever it takes, but it will cost money. It is a business, not a charity.

Before you go pushing for the Government to 'get involved' just think of the wonders it has already done for health care and the potential that exists along those lines, then think about thaving that in your gas tank.

And, once and for all, somebody please tell me how another DAMN TAX is going to make fuel any cheaper?

Byron Dorgan should KNOW BETTER, it was a "windfall profits tax" that crashed the oil industry in North Dakota four years before the rest of the industry went down the tubes in 1986. It cost the state a fortune in lost revenues, and one hell of a lot of people their jobs, houses, often marriages, and all they were making payments on when the bottom dropped out. Now he wants to impose this on a National level.

How will this benefit America? Not at all.

52 posted on 10/28/2005 7:02:16 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Byron Dorgan, "NIMBYs, and ECOWHACKOS, and the US Government" are not capitalists, ND's energy tax is not an environment of true hands off capitalism, yet evil "capitalism" gets the rap.


58 posted on 10/28/2005 7:10:24 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I was thinking of railroads. How does crude get to Whiting, Indiana? Must be something other then pipelines. I have no problem with starting to drill in ANWR. Everyone here seems to think that all these companies are going to jump as soon as they got an OK to go. Not happening. They are making tons of money right now with their existing infrastructure.

You really think demand has gone down? There has been an abundant supply this whole year, and price has been going up. Supply and demand are not driving prices in this market anymore.

Also, I know the industry employees a lot, but why are most of the people along the Gulf Coast where all these refineries are receiving lower wages then most of the US?

And, no I would not want to leave these operations in the Gulf open during a Hurricane. You are bordering on a personal attack (If you have any sense), I would hope this conversation could continue without that.

As far as the government getting involved in anything, I think they are already too involved in everyone's life. We have no voice anymore, and we have no representation. They are their own entity, and it is controlled by greed and money.

66 posted on 10/28/2005 8:49:19 AM PDT by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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