[Siena Dreaming]

there across billions of light years and we have not found him or heaven

You're looking into the atmosphere to find God? You think He might live in the sky? LOL. Good luck...you will need it.

[Nameless]

Actually, I'm not looking anywhere, I think to do so is a waste of my time. The point I'm trying to make is that in the not so distant historical past Christians actually believed in the "Celestial Spheres" and a literal Heaven. They slowly changed their tune when it became obvious that that was untrue. I think the real task for us as a civilization is to find a new basis for the moral framework that gave us the political institutions of The Enlightenment. I know it must come as a shock to you that other conservatives don't share your world view, but don't you think that there is enough disparity between Christian cosmology and what we have discerned from empirical observation of the universe to question the relevance of religion in the modern world.