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To: Lazamataz
We won. You lost.

You haven't won anything. As for who and what has been lost, you and your reactionary cohorts aren't bright enough to get the half of it.

Listen to the talking heads this morning. You won't hear what I hear, I know. But try to pay attention to the precedent that's been set here. You people have set the Constitution and the founder's vision on its head.

Now only a very narrow range of people will ever be considered qualified for the court. They must have degrees from Harvard, Yale or one of the other elite law schools. They must have academic and/or work experience in one specific area of the law. Never again can a "common" man or woman be considered for the court. What I mean by that is someone who has come up through the world most of us live in.

You and your ilk disgust me more than I can possibly say.

1,483 posted on 10/27/2005 8:17:11 AM PDT by Wolfstar (The reactionaries' favorite short list are all judges GWB appointed to the appellate bench.)
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To: Wolfstar

"Reactionary"?!

What's with the commie lingo.

Are you a conservative or a progressive, comrade?


1,511 posted on 10/27/2005 8:21:00 AM PDT by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: Wolfstar

"You and your ilk disgust me more than I can possibly say."

snicker, chortle


1,513 posted on 10/27/2005 8:21:10 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Wolfstar
You haven't won anything. As for who and what has been lost, you and your reactionary cohorts aren't bright enough to get the half of it.

We reminded Bush who brung 'im to the dance, we did.

Listen to the talking heads this morning. You won't hear what I hear, I know. But try to pay attention to the precedent that's been set here. You people have set the Constitution and the founder's vision on its head.

Nonsense. Unless now it is unConstitutional to express your opinion to the President.

Now only a very narrow range of people will ever be considered qualified for the court. They must have degrees from Harvard, Yale or one of the other elite law schools. They must have academic and/or work experience in one specific area of the law. Never again can a "common" man or woman be considered for the court. What I mean by that is someone who has come up through the world most of us live in.

Absurd. Just get us a conservative who doesn't write like an idiot.

You and your ilk disgust me more than I can possibly say.

I'm an ilk now? COOL!


1,523 posted on 10/27/2005 8:22:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: Wolfstar
You people have set the Constitution and the founder's vision on its head

Would that be the same constitution that starts with "We the people of these United States....?

1,525 posted on 10/27/2005 8:22:25 AM PDT by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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To: Wolfstar

how "common" do you want a person representing 11% of one entire branch of government to be?


1,542 posted on 10/27/2005 8:24:50 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Wolfstar

"You people have set the Constitution and the founder's vision on its head."

I guess I missed the part that said we weren't allowed to criticize.


1,551 posted on 10/27/2005 8:25:58 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Wolfstar
Now only a very narrow range of people will ever be considered qualified for the court. They must have degrees from Harvard, Yale or one of the other elite law schools. They must have academic and/or work experience in one specific area of the law. Never again can a "common" man or woman be considered for the court. What I mean by that is someone who has come up through the world most of us live in.

I agree. I don't think they see what they have done, some of them will never see it.

What a tragic thing for this country.

1,585 posted on 10/27/2005 8:29:09 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Wolfstar; Lazamataz

"Now only a very narrow range of people will ever be considered qualified for the court. They must have degrees from Harvard, Yale or one of the other elite law schools. They must have academic and/or work experience in one specific area of the law. Never again can a "common" man or woman be considered for the court. What I mean by that is someone who has come up through the world most of us live in."

You're good at sticking to talking points but you suck at losing. For instance, did you know that most here seem to support CONSERVATIVES, without regard to their Ivy League credentials? It's horses' asses like you who stuck with the insulting tone and message that made the dissenters' ranks grow. If you think Miers' withdrawal set some Ivy League precedent, you are simply kidding yourself. It set a precedent that the GOP must appoint known conservatives OR at least hellaqualified stealth nominees with enough paper trail to look good enough to the base. And that's good precedent, not bad.


1,615 posted on 10/27/2005 8:34:54 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Miers did the right thing. Now the President can, by appointing Alex Kozinski, 9th Circuit COA.)
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To: Wolfstar
Now only a very narrow range of people will ever be considered qualified for the court. They must have degrees from Harvard, Yale or one of the other elite law schools. They must have academic and/or work experience in one specific area of the law. Never again can a "common" man or woman be considered for the court. What I mean by that is someone who has come up through the world most of us live in.

The fight for this nominee is over. Stop trying to convince yourself that what happened is what you wanted to have happened.

What happened here is that "constructionist" and "verifiable" have been added as qualifications for nominees coming from a GOP President (if he wants to hold onto the GOP base). None of those other things were ever at issue, except in the strawman arguments of supporters. Do you really think we were more concerned about her SMU education than her demonstrable prediliction for supporting racist and sexist policy?

1,625 posted on 10/27/2005 8:36:25 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Liberals: Get your human shields lined up quick or you'll miss the bombing!)
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To: Wolfstar
Well, while I sorta agree with the first part of what you say, I disagree vehemently with "set the Constitution and the founder's vision on its head."

Look, Bush and the GOP lost in the big picture of things because this "spat" occurred at all. But who nominated this person in the first place? I would suggest, that act initiated the process. Only time will tell how much long term effect it actually has, but a good incator may be seen in Bush's next try.

This nomination had all the down sides of Roberts (no track record) with the addition of extremely dubious credentials and the potential charge of cronyism. It simply wasn't smart. IMO.

On the other hand, the issue of "didn't even allow an up or down vote" - admittedly not your claim in the comment cited - and the quote above - are way off the mark. Ever heard of free speech and democratic (in the good sense) process? These were exercised and appropriately. Admittedly, the debate grew hot, but haven't you been watching what Coulter et al do/say about Democrats on a regular basis?

She could have had her up and down vote, nothing ANYONE not elected to the Senate can do or has done to avoid that...except her "withdrawl." (Speech impediments are a terrible thing.)

1,658 posted on 10/27/2005 8:42:03 AM PDT by DK Zimmerman
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