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I wonder where most of these H-1B workers are from and how much they are being paid compared to the same skillset available locally ....
1 posted on 10/24/2005 11:55:33 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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mexicans and canadians can't do those jobs? This is terrible legal imigrants coming in and taking good jobs from mexican and canadian illegals. </sarcasm


2 posted on 10/24/2005 11:59:46 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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Really hypocritical, ain't it?

An act within our Congress to allow 30,000 visas..all legal and proper, right? While at the same time, we support, encourage and reward 10 MILLION ILLEGALS in our country.

Make me rather ill.


3 posted on 10/24/2005 12:00:50 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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They are bad at 1/2 the american wage. Most of these visas are taken by ppl that work here for a few years living as paupers then return back to their country with the money and the experience.


4 posted on 10/24/2005 12:01:14 PM PDT by BobCNY
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Who the f*** needs the Democrats to screw us over when we already have the Republicans?

I have lost two jobs to outsourcing in the last four years and my current job will be outsourced next year.

When in God's Name will American politicians start acting in the interests of AMERICANS????????


5 posted on 10/24/2005 12:01:39 PM PDT by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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India and Ukraine.

Way too many let in. They work for a lot less. A lot. It really hurts local contractors. They should not have raised it at all!


8 posted on 10/24/2005 12:12:41 PM PDT by Danae (Most Liberals don't drink the Kool-aide, they are licking the powder right out of the packet.)
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Supporters of more H-1B visas also pointed to benefit for U.S. workers, with $1,500 of each visa application fee going toward U.S. worker training programs.

Some "benefit"! Trained for what? A BA in burger-flipping or bed-pan dumping?

I worked with these H1Bs in the 90s. More than one told me they were put on salary and worked 60+ hours a week. The kicker is the mother company only billed the client for 40 hours. Which would you hire - an American contractor (usually paid by the hour) and have to pay for the extra hours or an H1B at a flat rate of 40? The eradication of the middle class continues.

11 posted on 10/24/2005 12:13:55 PM PDT by Oatka (Hyphenated-Americans have hyphenated-loyalties -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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They may have a harder time getting them to come here, now that experienced people can make large salaries in India.

Who would trade 18 lakh in Mumbai for 75K in Ohio? The good ones have more job offers than they can handle in their own country.


12 posted on 10/24/2005 12:14:36 PM PDT by proxy_user
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More cheap labor for the tech industry in the U.S..



"..SIIA believes that the proposal represents an interim solution for immediate U.S. workforce needs while also providing necessary revenue for the federal government"

And how does the government generate more revenue by replacing taxpaying American workers with foreigners who make less money?

These people ( on both sides of the aisle ) don`t care about Americans or America, only with lining their pockets with campaign contributions.


14 posted on 10/24/2005 12:19:16 PM PDT by Peace will be here soon ((Liberal definition of looting: "Self-help Humanitarian Aid."))
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Majority are computer programmers/tech industry jobs. Many come from places like India, Russia, Eastern Europe.

Were the wages american companies like Microsoft pay them is at least 2 to 3 times what they would make at home, but still less than what Microsoft would have to pay in wages and benefits to american programmers. I'm sure Microsoft, Oracle, Cisco, etc.. are always the biggest backers of getting the number of H1B visas increased. THey always are.

I used to live near microsoft and there are entire apt complexs filled with indian H1B programmers. In the summer, they bring over their parents to visit, and the areas start looking like you've been dropped into a bollywood movie.



16 posted on 10/24/2005 12:22:19 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican
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ping


17 posted on 10/24/2005 12:25:06 PM PDT by gubamyster
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I worked with some of these men and women at a NY, Wall St. located bank. They're an affable bunch and competent. The companies sponser them, pack them three or four in a bunch into small apartments or houses in generally poorer neighborhoods. Their pay is a fraction of their American counterparts. Their language skills are dubious as is their understanding of the applicaions. They basically work on a monkey see, monkey do basis without any creative input.

The next CEO(IO) I hear saying that there is a shortage of qualified American workers should be, at least metaforically, punched in the face.


20 posted on 10/24/2005 12:28:13 PM PDT by NYDave
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Taking the jobs Americans won't do, I presume?


21 posted on 10/24/2005 12:28:29 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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H-1B Bump!


23 posted on 10/24/2005 12:31:23 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!)
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I wonder where most of these H-1B workers are from and how much they are being paid compared to the same skillset available locally ....

Probably to the same offshore IT companies that took American jobs in the first place.

Now that companies have moved to the offshore model, they're finding that there needs to be an onshore presence for liaisons to work with workers back home. So, increase the H-1B limit to allow cheap labor to work onsite (still lower than domestic worker wages) to coordinate all the work going overseas.

-PJ

24 posted on 10/24/2005 12:32:33 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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about 1/2....sometimes a little more.


25 posted on 10/24/2005 12:32:59 PM PDT by calrighty (Taglines for sale or let......1 liners 50 cents! C'mon troops, finish em off!!)
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he committee's decision "will give U.S. business more ability to compete, succeed, remain competitive and provide new revenue for training U.S. workers and for deficit reduction," Jack Krumholtz, Microsoft's managing director for federal government affairs, said in a statement.

I suppose we'll hear from all the rabid microsoft supporters on this thread... </sarcasm>

26 posted on 10/24/2005 12:33:19 PM PDT by zeugma (Warning: Self-referential object does not reference itself.)
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The Senators looked at the headlines about increasing illegal immigration in the US and their robotic minds came into tune;

When my Senators need money for re-election I will remind them of this day.

"October 24, 2005 was the day you closed my wallet, Sir. I thank you for that."

28 posted on 10/24/2005 12:41:30 PM PDT by B4Ranch (No expiration date on the oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic!)
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saying U.S. companies need to be able to recruit workers from around the world to compete in a global economy

Interesting how the rationale mutates to serve the needs of the H1-B employers. It used to be, "we need these guys 'cuz there just aren't enough of them from this country". Now that everyone knows that's a crock, they change the marketing line....

29 posted on 10/24/2005 12:41:33 PM PDT by Regulator
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Current law allows for a 20,000-visa exception to the H-1B visa cap for graduate students, and close to 8,000 student H-1B visas remain unused, McManes said. "Industry says it only wants to bring in the 'best and brightest,' yet thousands of the 20,000 extra visas ... are not currently being used," he said. "If they were only seeking the best and brightest, shouldn't these visas fill up first?"

Look, if they were using these visas to bring in PhD-level computer scientists who were simply unavailable in the US, that would be one thing. In fact, that's the intent of the legislation, and what our representatives think they are "buying" when they sign off on these increases. But industry is instead routinely misusing using the H1B program: bringing in just enough "stars" to give themselves cover while using the rest of the slots for run-of-the-mill programmers and network engineers that they can pay $40K/year instead of the $85K/year a comparable US employee might cost.

30 posted on 10/24/2005 12:41:37 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Speaking several languages is an asset; keeping your mouth shut in one is priceless.)
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They are paid the same wages that Americans are getting paid for the same job.
31 posted on 10/24/2005 12:53:44 PM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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