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U.S. probes Afghan body desecration charges
msnbc ^ | 10/19/05 | By Jim Miklaszewski

Posted on 10/19/2005 3:42:00 PM PDT by minus_273

The Army tells NBC News its Criminal Investigation Division is looking into an Australian broadcast report with video that allegedly shows U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan burning the bodies of two Taliban fighters, then using the incident to taunt Taliban forces.

SBS, an Australian public broadcast network, aired the story Wednesday night. U.S. Army officials confirm that a free-lance cameraman working for the network was embedded with the 82nd Airborne at the time of the alleged body burning.

According to the network report, one American, one Afghan soldier and two Taliban fighters were killed in a firefight near the village of Gonbaz in southern Afghanistan. The report says the next day the bodies of the two Taliban fighters were laid out facing west and burned in a "deliberate desecration of Muslim beliefs.” The cameraman who shot the video said the soldiers claimed they were told to burn the bodies for "hygiene reasons" because they had been out in the open for 24 hours and started to decompose.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afgnaistan; liberal; liberalmedia; nazi; sand; sandnazi; talibal; wot
On the front page of msnbc. according to msnbc taunting the enemy is now a war crime.
1 posted on 10/19/2005 3:42:02 PM PDT by minus_273
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To: minus_273

transcript from the show is less alarming and drama filled than the MSNBC report and this editor's note. Coming from the SBS, that is saying something.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9755878/



Editor's note: The following is a transcript of an Oct. 19 interview between photojournalist Stephen Dupont and George Negus of the Australian Public Broadcast Network SBS. Dupont was embedded with the U.S. 82nd Airborne and filmed the burning of Taliban bodies, along with taunting of Afghan citizens about desecrating the bodies.

George Negus: Steve, even though you were embedded with the Americans, I have to say I was surprised that you were even able to film that stuff. Why do you think they had no problem with you doing it?

Stephen Dupont, photojournalist: Well, I believe that they had a certain amount of trust and I think, when you're embedded with the Americans, they tend to sort of let you have free rein. Once you're in there - it's very difficult to get in there.

Negus: No restrictions?

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Dupont: None that I saw on my embed. I just think that they're - you know, they've invited you in, they've invited me in so they're showing me pretty much what's going on.

Negus: Do you think they understood the ramifications of what they're doing? The burning of the bodies, pointing towards Mecca and going to the trouble of reading to you in English the deliberately provocative stuff that they were shouting across the valley to the Taliban?

Dupont: Look, I think the airborne unit that was responsible with the burning of the two Taliban soldiers weren't really thinking in that way. I think the psychological operations unit, who were responsible for the broadcast along with some other broadcasts to the Taliban, they're quite well aware of it. They're older guys. That's their job. They're PsyOps. They use it as a weapon. And the Americans are so frustrated. They're frustrated because they can't find the enemy. They're chasing shadows all the time.

Negus: The guys burning the bodies -- probably did they think were doing it for reasons of hygiene that were mentioned in the story?

Dupont: I believe that. That was the feeling I got as I climbed up the hill. As I got to the crest of the hill, they started burning the bodies. My initial reaction was, "My God, I've got to film this. This is really important stuff. It's my responsibility as a journalist to -

Negus: The PsyOps had a different purpose?

Dupont: I believe so. Nice guys -- they said to me, "We've been told to burn the bodies, the bodies have been here for 24 hours and they're starting to stink so, for hygiene purposes, this is what we've got to do."

Later on, when I was down with the PsyOps operations people, they used that as a psychological warfare, I guess you'd call it. They used the fact that the Taliban were burned facing west -

Negus: They were deliberately setting out to humiliate the Taliban?

Dupont: They deliberately wanted to incite that much anger from the Taliban so the Taliban could attack them.

Negus: Smoke them out.

Dupont: Smoke them out. They want the Taliban to fight them because they can't find them otherwise. It's a really crazy situation. And, you know, the fact that they're announcing these kind of, you know, sort of incredible statements, I think, says a lot about the war that's going on there. I mean, they really want to be attacked. That's the only way they can find them.

Negus: They don't know where the enemy is, who the enemy is. It's like fighting a ghost.

Dupont: Absolutely. We're talking about a place that really does look like the moon, look like some planet in outer space.

Negus: In the context of things like Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay, Bagram and Fallujah, do you think there will be ramifications when this stuff gets to the world? The last time somebody desecrated the Koran in Guantanamo Bay they went off their faces in Afghanistan.

Dupont: I think it's highly possible. I can't say for sure. I think it's strong enough, certainly, to send a clear message to Muslims around the world that this is, this is not good. This is a clear breach of Islam. And, you know, it's just another thing that's going to really anger the Islamic population.

Negus: That being the case, do you think that the psychological war is working?

Dupont: Look, I think it's having some success. I do believe - I think it's very, very slow. I think there is a certain amount of success because they are engaging with the enemy, as in the Taliban. The Americans are using this, you know, psychological warfare to announce - to make announcements to get the enemy to fight them. It is working on that level. And they are being attacked and so they are responding and they are taking prisoners of war and so forth.

So, in the eyes of the Americans and the coalition, there is a sense that things are working, but it's very, very slow.

Negus: Is it the most amazing thing you've photographed? Close?

Dupont: It's close. And, at the time, George, I really didn't think of it that way. When I was filming it, I think I was just on such a mission to capture these images and it was so extraordinary - it's more when I came home and I started looking at the video footage and the photographs that I took that, you know, it started to come around to thinking, "My God, these are really poignant historical images."

Negus: The Australians are in the same area. Any contact whatsoever with them?

Dupont: They're keeping a very low profile. I saw some at Kandahar air base and Bagram air base and I instigated some conversation that really kind of went nowhere.

Negus: By stark contrast, the Americans are totally open about what they're doing, even something like what we've just seen.

Dupont: Absolutely, absolutely open. I think I mentioned before - once you're embedded with them, you can pretty well see what they're doing. If there was anything the Americans didn't want me to see, I wouldn't have seen it, that's what I believe. I really believe that the fact that they were burning these bodies, it didn't mean much to them. I think maybe that's common. They make these decisions on the spot.

Negus: Steve, good talking to you.

Dupont: Thanks, George.


2 posted on 10/19/2005 3:58:16 PM PDT by Pikamax
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my responsibility as a soldier ought to be....shoot the commie reporter. NO EMBEDS!


3 posted on 10/19/2005 4:03:28 PM PDT by Kewlhand`tek
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To: minus_273

I think what you are going to find is that people who support what we're doing there won't care, and people who are shocked, don't support what we're doing there.

I'm annoyed that the photographer decided it was important to publish these pictures, but not surprised.

In the overall scheme of things, this is small potatoes. The enemy cuts people's head off while they are still kicking and breathing, and burned 3000 Americans alive; some of our guys burned a dead body. I'm sorry, I just can't get too worked up about it.


4 posted on 10/19/2005 4:10:23 PM PDT by marron
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video that allegedly shows U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan burning the bodies of two Taliban fighters

How else do you get rid of trash? I can hear the soldiers now, "Get your smokies over here, Mr.Taliban". Just giving them the opportunity to rescue their comrades.

5 posted on 10/19/2005 4:17:52 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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Lesson learned from Vietnam, never ever trust a journalists.

Rememebr the the last invasion of Iraq? The Iraqi army had taken off their uniforms and melted into the countryside. The Marines used to taunt them as they moved north with louspeakers in much the same manner. The Iraqis became so enraged they attacked the tanks. Makes killing them easier.

If Americans get upset over this then they don't have the guts to win a war on terror.


6 posted on 10/19/2005 4:19:55 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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Well I'm upset about it...no bacon fat added!
What could they have been thinking?


7 posted on 10/19/2005 4:23:00 PM PDT by sarasmom (What is the legal daily bag limit for RINOs in the USA?)
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To: minus_273

Ooo. The liberal beat goes on.


8 posted on 10/19/2005 5:17:51 PM PDT by Reactionary
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Where's the video??? Anyone find a link to it yet? I've seen stills (captured from the vid I guess) on ABC...but no video yet. Properly preparing Taliban cuisine is tricky. You first must check to be sure the meat has no bomb vests or anything such as that. ;)
9 posted on 10/21/2005 9:03:40 AM PDT by Martyboy1
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