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Indicted? For What?
National Review Online ^ | 10/19/05 | Byron York

Posted on 10/19/2005 7:18:17 AM PDT by frankjr

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To: Eric in the Ozarks

shut up! Your wife works for the CIA!


61 posted on 10/19/2005 12:24:36 PM PDT by jd777
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To: lugsoul
He said straight out to Wolf Blitzer, on live television, last summer that Cheney DID NOT send him and that he wasn't claiming he did.

Why ever did Joe broach the subject that Cheney sent him to Niger? Did he switch his story after the administration denied Cheney sent him?

What date did he say that on Blitzer's program?

62 posted on 10/19/2005 12:25:21 PM PDT by syriacus (Don't look for medical breakthroughs to be accomplished by pro-abortion or pro-euthanasia doctors.)
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To: lugsoul

You're right. Wilson's choice of words about who authorized the niger trip has always been used-car-salesman slick. He never actually fingered Cheney, but his clear desire, obviously, was to leave listeners with that impression, and to do so without actually saying as much.

The MSM dutifully reported the impression, rather than the precise quote, and -- presto! -- "Cheney sent Wilson" became an arrticle of faith. Ergo, Cheney knew of Plame's part and identity and must have been responsible for "outing" her.

Wilson really is a piece of absolute filth.


63 posted on 10/19/2005 12:26:09 PM PDT by Kiss Me Hardy
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To: Lancey Howard
LOL! Best summary of Plamegate I've seen!

"OH!He simply MUST!"

64 posted on 10/19/2005 12:27:07 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Just an old Nam guy)
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To: lugsoul
She can't do it either.

Really?

Could you, please, show proof that Andrea Mitchell can't name witnesses who heard Wilson say Cheney sent him to Niger?

If you search the internet you might be able to find something.

I can't believe you until you find the proof somewhere.

65 posted on 10/19/2005 12:29:57 PM PDT by syriacus (Don't look for medical breakthroughs to be accomplished by pro-abortion or pro-euthanasia doctors.)
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To: syriacus
"Why ever did Joe broach the subject that Cheney sent him to Niger?"

Because he was asked the question - as a result of spinners saying 'Wilson lied when he said Cheney sent him.'

Jeebus. It would be much easier if you weren't trying to be purposefully obtuse. As for your question on the date - 8/3/03. Go read it, then try to explain why people are STILL trying to claim that 'Wilson lied when he said Cheney sent him.

66 posted on 10/19/2005 12:36:03 PM PDT by lugsoul (Sleeper troll since 1999.)
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To: sabatino28
Still, how can you cover something that did not exist in the first place?

Not only that, but how does he know what was said in the grand jury room. Rove and Scooter have testified freely many times. They gave waivers to all the reporters they talked to. One sat in jail for some time before she decided to testify. She then forgot who her source was. This is fn' ridiculous.

67 posted on 10/19/2005 12:41:45 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: lugsoul
Why won't you trust Andrea Mitchell's statements about Wilson? Has she testified to Fitzgerald?

Transcript shows early effort to discredit ambassador Document subpoenaed in CIA leak probe [March 6, 2004 ]

One journalist, NBC reporter and "Meet the Press" host Andrea Mitchell, appears to have several connections of interest.

On July 6, she interviewed Wilson about his trip to Niger, and two days later she reported officials tried to cast Wilson as a Democratic "partisan." And on July 16, her husband, Federal Reserve Board Chairman Alan Greenspan, was honored at a White House reception held to celebrate former President Gerald Ford's 90th birthday. The grand jury subpoenaed the guest list, which has not been released.

"I shouldn't talk about it," Mitchell said Friday, declining to say if she attended the reception. Asked why the grand jury might be interested in it, she said, "I can't even imagine."


68 posted on 10/19/2005 12:45:28 PM PDT by syriacus (Don't look for medical breakthroughs to be accomplished by pro-abortion or pro-euthanasia doctors.)
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To: lugsoul
It would be much easier if you weren't trying to be purposefully obtuse.

Please prove that I am being purposefully obtuse.

69 posted on 10/19/2005 12:48:24 PM PDT by syriacus (Don't look for medical breakthroughs to be accomplished by pro-abortion or pro-euthanasia doctors.)
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To: opticoax
Matt Cooper of Time has testified that he called Rove initially, but it was Rove who said that Wilson's wife was CIA, but Rove didnt say she was covert and didnt name her.

Didn't Cooper bring the subject up at the end of the conversation?

70 posted on 10/19/2005 12:51:20 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: syriacus

You just did it for me.


71 posted on 10/19/2005 12:51:23 PM PDT by lugsoul (Sleeper troll since 1999.)
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To: lugsoul

Aren't we all allowed to request substantiation of statements?


72 posted on 10/19/2005 12:54:13 PM PDT by syriacus (Don't look for medical breakthroughs to be accomplished by pro-abortion or pro-euthanasia doctors.)
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To: lugsoul
Amazing how you keep missing the obvious point. You keep reporting what you have heard REPORTERS SAY - not what WILSON SAYS.

Has Wilson ever disputed what Andrea Mitchell said he said?

73 posted on 10/19/2005 12:59:35 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: pepperhead

Yep. Cooper called about welfare or social-security reform (forget which), then slipped the Plame questions in at the end.


74 posted on 10/19/2005 1:00:41 PM PDT by Kiss Me Hardy
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To: pepperhead
As I understand it, Cooper called Rove to discuss welfare reform and brought up Wilson at the end of the interview.

This is important because the MSM and Wilson claimed that Rove and Libby were initiating contact with reporters.

Rove told Cooper not to get too far out on the Wilson story because Wilson had credibility issues. He then said something to the effect that Wilson was sent on the trip because his wife worked at the CIA.

He did not identify Plame as a NOC or use her name.

Personal theory is that Plame was removed from covert ops when it turned out she was having an affair with a married diplomat (Wilson) in 1997. Wilson was, at the time, Senior Director for African Affairs at the National Security Council.

This affair opened one or both of them up to the possibility of blackmail. Wilson has since left public service.

Wilson decided to make a future with the Kerry camp by writing the article for the NYT and basically lying about what he found.

75 posted on 10/19/2005 1:07:30 PM PDT by opticoax
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To: lugsoul

So if you say something to me and I report it, it doesn't count unless it is in my notes or on tape? When you talk to a reporter, you expect them to report what you say. If what Andrea said is untrue, Wilson could dispute it. So far he hasn't.


76 posted on 10/19/2005 1:07:37 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: opticoax; Kiss Me Hardy

Thanks for refreshing my memory.


77 posted on 10/19/2005 1:10:31 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: jd777

I keep that under cover.


78 posted on 10/19/2005 1:30:10 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Troubled by NOLA looting ? You ain't seen nothing yet.)
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To: Purrcival

Love your Tagline! Yes, stomping was my first choice, too. Just enough to get the message across (smile).


79 posted on 10/19/2005 1:44:14 PM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: frankjr

In quoting my post, you ask "who said 'Valerie Plame IS working on classified WMD work for the CIA, undercover'?"

You seem to have deliberately ignored the opening portion of my sentence, "Let's assume a situation where someone like Valerie Plame....."

My points were, and are, that (1) the Espionage Act is on its face much broader than the specific "code books," etc. that are discussed in it, and (2) that's the right way for it to be. I WANT "documents," "notes," and other "information" related to national defense to be protected from disclosure, which is just the way that the Espionage Act is written. And, just as I stated in my original post, IF "someone like" Valerie Plame IS in fact undercover on WMD issues, I want that information protected along with the "code books."

Now, do you have any response to my actual post, rather than just taking out a portion of a sentence?


80 posted on 10/19/2005 1:50:06 PM PDT by Vonnegut
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