Some Conservatives Need To Be Taken To The Woodshed (vanity)

Me ^ | 18-October-2005 | Erik Latranyi

[trubluolyguy]

I just find it downright laughable when a big-government hack like William Kristol publicly denounces the nomination of Miers for not being "conservative enough."

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And you are backing the nomination because Bush nominated her or because she is the "most qualified? I suspect it is because Bush nominated her and you trust him. Admirable, if naive.

If Bill Kristol is a "Big Government Hack"....what the hell is George W?

[w_over_w]

What would Moe Howard say about all this??

Say Uncle!

[w_over_w]

Pray for W and Our Victorious Troops

Everyday . . . and then some.

[trubluolyguy]

Calling people with deeply held beliefs "bushbots" is pathetic ignorance.

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Kissing the buttocks of GWB is NOT a deeply held belief. It is the selling out of what beliefs you do have because he is our President. I am not saying you are doing this but oh so many are, esp on the borders.

[Peter Libra]

Disruptors turn out to be people who only come on to these threads to stir up trouble.

I whole heartedly agree. I do notice though, that some genuine Freepers can be abrasive. Canadian Freepers are aware of this. This is the assumption that ALL Canadians are of the ilk, that is typical of much of Canada's ruling elite.

So far so good. Nothing like free speech. This is possibly the ONLY site of respectability where I can sound off. Sure I could go on a hate site- ain't gonna do that.

It is the master himself that sets a standard- the El Rushbo. Rush will get a mild flaming, he then utterly charms the flamer- ie: sort of that he might believe that person is really a reasonable human being deep down. If not, they are toast.

I try to educate some of the flamers, about our 37% popular vote Liberal government.

To be flamed, is the price I now am willing pay. P.S.(Laughs).

[rdb3]

I believe that you are proving this thread initiator's point. No discourse at all, just attack, attack, attack.

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[bray]

Notice which side responds to you by name calling and which side wants a discourse.

You make my point beyond shadow of a doubt! You have nothing to offer other than cheap name calling. As for the borders, you won't allow any discussion on that issue.

Pray for W and Our Victorious Troops

[inquest]

"Conservative" branch of the Republican party as represented by the tantrum throwing George Will, those with the tendency to go off the deep end like Rush Limbaugh have done a lot of damage with their childish behavior and need to grow up, start acting responsibly, doing more good than harm and behaving like mature adults.

Since you failed to provide an example of what you're talking about, one is left to conclude that "childish", according to you, is defined by disagreement with Bush. Sorry, but that's a very childish attitude on your part.

[trubluolyguy]

I believe that you are proving this thread initiator's point. No discourse at all, just attack, attack, attack.

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I have sat here and watched for weeks as the Pro-Meiers side hurled invective after personal attack at those who think for themselves and do not toe the party line. I have read this vanity and most of the replies to it. They are all about how the anti-Meiers folks are so mean. Yes we are. When we are fighting back. I have seen posts by bray on Meiers threads and now here he/she is whining about this garbage. I, and many conservatives I know on this forum WILL NOT stand by and watch our President screw up by the numbers on so many issues and not call him on it.

If some folks, who believe the man walks on water can't handle that and want to start hurling names and insults, we can fight back just as hard.

[inquest]

What I find so disconcerting is the group who proclaims to love the constitution so much that they are unwilling to give this woman a fair hearing because they feel that by not being a legal scholar or judge that she is unqualified to sit on the SCOTUS. That is precisely what the drafters of the constitution wanted to avoid.

No, the drafters of the Consitution did not want to avoid the public coming to their own conclusions using information available to them, and instructing their servants based on that information.

[rdb3]

If some folks, who believe the man walks on water can't handle that and want to start hurling names and insults, we can fight back just as hard.

I don't think the man can walk on water. Nevertheless, have it your way. I've said my piece.

If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
Also, please see The Backside of American History
You'll love this 187 page .pdf (1.99 MB)

[wardaddy]

Nice post. Bears Repeating. This was my tipping point. I had tried to ignore all you just mentioned.

Bushbots are not just anyone who backs Bush on Miers, but those who back him no matter what he does, who backed him on Federalizing education, on McVain-Vaingold, on the largest entitlement program in 40 years, on his massive ag spending, on AIDS aid for Africa, on his refusal to do anything about the borders, on issue after issue after issue. And they back Miers too, not for substantive reasons (as some do, although I disagree with tehm), but because they "support our President." Sorry, but that's not a good reason.

They support open-borders Republicans over Minutemen. They support RINOs in Senate and House races over principled conservatives -- after all,the White House backs them, so that's reason enough, isn't it? If you have a good reason for supporting any of this, that's one thing. I may disagree, but I can at least respect it. But "we have to support our President" is not a good reason. Sorry.

[CyberAnt]

Well .. I welcome Canadians to this site, and I've never forgotten how the Canadian Embassy hid Americans.

[Warren_Piece]

Erik, I have to ask, are you from the South? I only ask because, being from the south myself, I know that respect and manners are held in the highest esteem in that region, right below duty, honor, country, family.

Great thread, BTW.

[jess35]

On KSFO this AM they talking about this very topic. The Republican party is proving to not necessarily be the best vehicle for representation of conservatives, and that conservatives might just need to find another party.

Again, what kind of conservative? Are you talking about social conservatives, fiscal conservatives? I've never actually met a social AND fiscal conservative, though many lay claim to the title. Fiscal conservatism is always sacrificed to obtain the "correct" social goal.

[SunkenCiv]

Oh yeah? Well, stop slouching!

Eating our own...Time to make a new start in Free Republic.
7-26-04 | Bob J
Posted on 07/26/2004 7:41:11 PM PDT by Bob J
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1179142/posts

Breaking: Miers indicates to Senate she support banning most abortions
AP wire | 10/18 | JESSE J. HOLLAND
Posted on 10/18/2005 7:48:37 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1504575/posts

[jess35]

If Bill Kristol is a "Big Government Hack"....what the hell is George W?

President of the United States of America.

[bray]

Kissing the buttocks of GWB is NOT a deeply held belief

Yeah, right!! You must be looking through some thick glasses to come up with that response. Your side is all over this thread calling us names and nobody is returning fire.

We have no problem with you disagreeing with the President. We have a problem with you calling him names. It is disgraceful to the Presidency and the Country which you claim to be saving. Playing the victim card is a bit weak after all the threads you've trashed.

Pray for W and Our Victorious Troops

[Erik Latranyi]

Erik, I have to ask, are you from the South?

No, Warren, I am from Pennsylvania. But there are still some who believe in civility.

[jess35]

Actually, Hamilton did say that a nominee should only be voted down for "special and strong" reasons. I don't think. WAAAAAAAAAAH!!! I don't like the bad lady, daddy! Nominate who I want!!! is either a special or a strong reason. Y'all want an originalist and yet you want to change the original intent of the advise and consent role of the Senate.