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Evidence of Swimming Dinosaur Found
AP - Science ^ | 2005-10-18 | BOB MOEN

Posted on 10/18/2005 7:19:16 AM PDT by Junior

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To: webstersII

D'oh! You're right. I meant "dentition." Blood sugar's low. Yeah, that's it.


81 posted on 10/18/2005 8:37:08 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Stultis
Name two.

Why... will it change your mind?

82 posted on 10/18/2005 8:37:56 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: kjam22
You don't think it's been proven that a spaceship can orbit the earth? You don't think that was once a theory???

Okay, now you're showing your ignorance of science. No, theories are never proven. There is always the possibility that new data will render the theory moot. However, researchers can have high degrees of confidence in a theory because it has enormous amounts of supporting data and its ability to allow predictions to be made.

83 posted on 10/18/2005 8:39:53 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Stultis
Well, how would you explain that the tracks become less deep and in the end only claw marks.

Since you ask how the tracks might otherwise be explained, I will scratch my head and see if I can come up with some alternative explanation.

How about: Over 165 million year period, some degree of erosion occurred so that some footprints are less perfect than others?

I make no claim that this assertion is accurate or that the original claim could not be accurate. But scientists have gotten into the business of seeing half a footprint and coming up with multiple conclusions based upon it. And if anyone says "That's conjecture", then the scientists start jumping up and down shouting "No it isn't!"

84 posted on 10/18/2005 8:39:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: kjam22

Self-esteem is earned.


85 posted on 10/18/2005 8:42:05 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Junior
Let me ask you two simple questions. 1) Was it at some time a theory that a rocket could orbit the earth? And 2) Is it now a proven fact that a rocket can orbit the earth?

I'm completely serious... if you can't get past this understanding..... then you do need to study more... and you need to study more than just science.

86 posted on 10/18/2005 8:42:47 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: Junior
Self-esteem is earned.

LOL.... now I know you're kidding.

87 posted on 10/18/2005 8:43:38 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: kjam22

I think the orbit thingy was basically mathematics, not theory. However, let's put together some definitions. Evolution is a fact, for example. We know that organisms change from generation to generation. Nothing special there. Evolution, the theory, attempts to explain why evolution, the fact, occurs. In your rocket example the rocket orbits (fact); if there is a rocket-orbit theory it attempts to explain why the rocket orbits.


88 posted on 10/18/2005 8:46:27 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: kjam22

How else do you get it? It can't be bestowed by another.


89 posted on 10/18/2005 8:47:06 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Junior
I think the orbit thingy was basically mathematics, not theory.

Wait... you're not saying that math doesn't have theory in it are you?????

90 posted on 10/18/2005 8:47:08 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: Junior
Ah, Junior,
see you are making the classic mistake of trying to talk rationally with an irrational person.
Can't be done...
91 posted on 10/18/2005 8:47:33 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: Junior
I ask you this.....1) Was it at some time a theory that a rocket could orbit the earth? And 2) Is it now a proven fact that a rocket can orbit the earth?

And your answer is that the orbit was about math... and not theory? And you're claiming to be smarter than everybody else here?? Now I know why you were pinging for help earlier.

92 posted on 10/18/2005 8:49:22 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: kjam22

Math has theories. However, not all math is theoretical.


93 posted on 10/18/2005 8:50:30 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Junior
Darn.

I thought that they had spotted it's wake.

94 posted on 10/18/2005 8:50:48 AM PDT by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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To: KeepUSfree

Sure it can... because he's so much smarter than us "ya'll sitting around the pot belly stove" type of people. And besides that.... he stayed at holiday inn last night.


95 posted on 10/18/2005 8:51:08 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: Junior

I'm no scientist but isn't a scientific theory called a "hypothesis"? And by definition, a theory or hypothesis is something that may be proven using scientific methodology?
I thought a scientist formed a hypothesis, then tested it, then possibly came to a conclusion, then presented his findings to other scientists in order to see whether or not the findings were replicable.
If the methodology is correct and the findings are replicable, isn't the theory then promoted from theory to fact, and the scientist then awarded by his peers a Nobel prize and lap dance from a buxom lass named `Treasure Chest'?


96 posted on 10/18/2005 8:51:29 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: KeepUSfree
Junior has outdone himself on this thread. All of us irrational people stand in awe of him. An unbelievable performance, to be sure.
97 posted on 10/18/2005 8:51:43 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: kjam22
Orbital Mechanics

Methinks you're just attempting to be difficult now. You kind of remind me of some of the posters that used to be on these threads...

98 posted on 10/18/2005 8:51:51 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Junior
So let's go back to the question... 1) was it once a theory that a space ship could orbit the earth... and 2) is it now a proven fact that a space ship can orbit the earth?

I'm not budging until you answer yes or no on each of these.

99 posted on 10/18/2005 8:52:07 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: KeepUSfree

I'm beginning to think you're right. I'm tempted to invoke Virtual Ignore. Besides, it's lunch time.


100 posted on 10/18/2005 8:52:31 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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