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To: Rodney King
one doesn't have to live with an RAD kid to know that there are a whole bunch of crap RAD therapies

So you're maintaining that, based on limited information, it is safe to assume that the mere existence of a "whole bunch of crap RAD therapies" would justify taking a child from his home based on the word of a babysitter who never even met the child? In previous posts, you continue to point at the smell of urine in the bedroom as some sort of just cause, yet I'm telling you that RAD (and other behavior challenged children) frequently urinate for manipulation purposes among other things. Again, until you have had one of these kids living in your home, you cannot understand (and, thus, cannot offer any type of educated or valid opinion).

/communication with RK

246 posted on 10/18/2005 7:18:10 AM PDT by Capagrl (Never argue with stupid people; they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: Capagrl
So you're maintaining that, based on limited information, it is safe to assume that the mere existence of a "whole bunch of crap RAD therapies" would justify taking a child from his home based on the word of a babysitter who never even met the child?

No, I said no such thing.

In previous posts, you continue to point at the smell of urine in the bedroom as some sort of just cause,

No, I am saying that it is one of a few factors that would lead CPS to have interest. yet I'm telling you that RAD (and other behavior challenged children) frequently urinate for manipulation purposes among other things.

Yes, I know.

Again, until you have had one of these kids living in your home, you cannot understand (and, thus, cannot offer any type of educated or valid opinion).

That's just stupid and illogical. And futher, if it is true, then this fellow should only make his plea for help to people who have had RAD kids live with them.

248 posted on 10/18/2005 7:21:10 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Capagrl; Rodney King
So you're maintaining that, based on limited information, it is safe to assume that the mere existence of a "whole bunch of crap RAD therapies" would justify taking a child from his home based on the word of a babysitter who never even met the child?

RK isn't maintaining anything of the sort. Even if the state has no more evidence than what is mentioned in the posted story (which was authored by the accused parent, so can hardly be presumed to be totally objective), they did not attempt to remove the child based only on an allegation by a 16 year old babysitter. The babysitter first told her mother about what she had seen/heard/smelled, and the mother then decided it should be reported to authorities. CPS workers first attempted a voluntary entrance to the home and were denied. They then went to court and got a warrant, only to discover that all the children and the mother had disappeared by the time they went to use it. We don't know what the CPS workers saw/heard/smelled when they were at the open front door of the home, or what the father may have said to them. But it may well have partially confirmed the report by the babysitter that something was seriously amiss there.

It is certainly possible that no abuse is occurring, but the father is making it awfully hard for anyone to find out. And he is apparently offering no information (at least in his public plea here) as to what sorts of "therapies" are being used on the child, or what therapist or doctor recommended the therapies. Either he is refusing to provide the info to the court, or he did tell the court some things which he neglected to mention in his public plea, and those things alarmed the court.

It's also possible that things are a lot worse than even what we've been speculating about here. Since all the children are now missing, can we be confident that the children who gave the babysitter details about the "therapy" weren't beaten to a pulp for telling? Was the mother beaten as punishment for her failures as a housekeeper, that led to the smell of urine in the house? No, I'm not assuming those things are true, but things like that do happen. I recognize that the court probably has a lot more information than we do, and may have good reason to be concerned that major abuse of the difficult adopted child, and possibly of other family members, is occurring.

267 posted on 10/18/2005 8:45:32 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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