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Bush at War With Right Over Court Nomination (And why Rush Limbaugh &c are sadly mistaken)
The Telegraph ^ | October 17, 2005 | Francis Harris

Posted on 10/16/2005 6:40:03 PM PDT by quidnunc

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To: Lurker

Just count how many Dems vote FOR her. I do not see any way that she is stopped. I can only seek comfort in the fact that maybe, some many years from now, we can have this issue to crush the RINOs who pretend they are conservative... but I doubt it, we have been betrayed so many times before and always a new generation comes up that finds it easier to close their eyes and pretend that they are not being used or duped. We have had this abomination of an income tax for 90 years because of that, and likely abortion will mark its 50th and gay mariage its 20th. Thanks Bush!!


161 posted on 10/16/2005 9:22:09 PM PDT by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: Waywardson

>>>Bush is starting to make Carter look like a world leader.
>>>The parallels are astounding!

WRONG, Carter runs from rabbits and didn't spend as much as Bush.

But I'm starting to think their hubris level is comparable.

Hoppy


162 posted on 10/16/2005 9:23:04 PM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: hispanichoosier

It doesn't effect your argument about miers, but Roberts had no real record to show he was an originalist, and his answers on the question suggested he wasn't ideologically originalist. Being versed in constitutional law does not itself reveal one's judicial philosophy.

That is why many here still are wary of Roberts. And therefore why they see this not as the first bad nomination, but the 2nd.


163 posted on 10/16/2005 9:24:07 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: rock58seg

Typical conversation:
GW: I'm going to nominate Harriet Miers.
WH Aide: What will the Conservatives think and do?
GW:Who cares. They have to go along, Where can they go?

Having voted for the man as many times as I have been able, (4) I hate to think he would be that cynnical. But this nomination reeks. Especially when there was some doubt (still is) about Roberts.



You are being too easy on them. Nothing in politics is an accident. They had her planned for a long time, just waiting. Bush is a RINO, the Reagan wing of the party has been put out the airlock, and this is the proof that they are convinced that they have the votes to do it. The conservative "movement" has come to a dead stop.


164 posted on 10/16/2005 9:24:49 PM PDT by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: quidnunc
To add to the Republican's woes, the party's "iron fist" in Congress, Tom DeLay, has been indicted for criminal conspiracy and money laundering.

He says the charges are politically motivated.

Well that explains that.

Libs will use the indictment even when DeLay is acquitted. The seriousness of the charge.

I hope at some time that as more conservatives occupy DA positions than already at hand that they do go after actual dem corruption more vigorously. Not trumped-up charges by bonafides. Dishonest fire has to be fought with as vigorous a righteous fire.

Oh I forgot - they are getting busted all the time but are getting the ear of sympathetic judges, corrupt lawyers and a total pass from the Alphabet networks, hollywood, PBS, universities etc.

165 posted on 10/16/2005 9:26:00 PM PDT by torchthemummy ("Dems preach to their moonbat choir while the Pubbies sing to the audience. " - TTM)
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To: zeaal

Won't be long until Bush will be at war with the right over BORDER SECURITY!



I hope you are right, but looking at the race in CA now with the Minute Man founder... Id say "the right" is still sleep walking right off the cliff with the Pied RINO pipers. We have a long way to go before that buzzing alarm wakes up the rest of us.


166 posted on 10/16/2005 9:26:49 PM PDT by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: af_vet_1981
Tell me, how is Traitor Jeffords ?

Keep licking those boots bushbot. Real Conservatives have real reasons to be concerned.

Mark Levin at Bench Memos:

The president and his advisors missed a truly historic opportunity to communicate with the American people about their government, the role of all three branches of the federal system, and the proper function of the judiciary. More importantly, they have failed to help the nation return to the equipoise of our constitutional system. And the current justices whose arrogance knows no bounds will be emboldened by this selection. They will see it as affirmation of their "extra-constitutionalism." The president flinched. Some have compared have compared profligate spending to Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal. But no one will accuse him of FDR's boldness when it comes to the Supreme Court.

If people are disappointed, they have every reason to be.

167 posted on 10/16/2005 9:27:34 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: RobbyS
I am pointing out that that the Democratic Party is not controlled by people of a compromising temper. Surely you are not talking about Hillary? There is not a single Democratic leader who can be counted as being a pragmatist, except maybe Reid becvause of his sometime pro-life stances.

Why do you keep repeating what I have not argued against?

I feel like you are addressing this post to the wrong person.

168 posted on 10/16/2005 9:29:22 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: CharlesWayneCT

You are so right. We had to stay together and fight when Clinton was President. If he had proposed the billions of pork or his own under qualified attorney for the court we would be so up in arms... But no, Bush does way worse and his kool aid drinking sheep run us all right off the cliff to our doom.


169 posted on 10/16/2005 9:29:29 PM PDT by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: I got the rope

did you see 108? he said that rush is trying to get bush impeached.


170 posted on 10/16/2005 9:29:53 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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To: hispanichoosier
."If I directly cooperate with an evil, I'm morally culpable."

But you did, and on top of that, you facilitated the election of a Democrat.

171 posted on 10/16/2005 9:29:59 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: I got the rope
Real Conservatives have real reasons to be concerned.

Real conservative patriots are concerned because Jeffords' traitors are trying to bring down our President.

172 posted on 10/16/2005 9:30:55 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Hop A Long Cassidy

WRONG, Carter .... didn't spend as much as Bush.




HAHAHAHAHA. OMG, that is too funny as to be so sad. If you would have predicted this in 1984, not one member of the GOP would have believed you. How far we have fallen....


173 posted on 10/16/2005 9:32:07 PM PDT by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: King Black Robe
I was told to get the hell out of the party.

By whom?

Some anonymous person posting on FR, who demands loyalty over independent and principled stance for basic honesty and good civics under our Constitution.

I told 'em that I'd call my Senators and the RNC, inform them of my position, and that I didn't need a personal reply -- I'll just watch the news.

174 posted on 10/16/2005 9:32:18 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: quidnunc; Stellar Dendrite
I have a newsflash for you, Einstein.

The reason Gerald Ford lost that election was because he was Gerald Ford.

There was no way that he was going to emerge victorious over ANY Democrat that November.

He was losing by over 30 points before Ronald Reagan decided to enter the race.

The fact that Ford's loss was as narrow as it was can be attributed to precisely two people.

Ronald Reagan and Bob Dole.

175 posted on 10/16/2005 9:33:40 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
"In other words, there are two types of Republicans: conservatives and moderates."

I'd like to make one slight correction:

"In other words, there are two types of Republicans: conservatives and moderates elected to office.

176 posted on 10/16/2005 9:33:46 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Jim_Curtis
"I don't think Bush was even aware of Miers' past donations to Gore and Dukakis in 1988"

Law firms donate to every candidate. Where these direct donations or generated from her firm?

177 posted on 10/16/2005 9:35:07 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: hispanichoosier
If a proven conservative like Janice Rogers Brown or Michael Luttig had been nominated, either of two things would happen. One: she or he is confirmed and we get a stalwart on the Supreme Court. Two: she or he is filibustered and we go nuclear on the Dems. The latter scenario is perfect for the midterm elections; we can paint the Dems as obstructionist children while at the same time firing up our base.

So true. End of story. This would not have happened if we elected a true conservative. This women must step aside. If not we may well see a 3rd party filling the vacuum. I don't think this White House understands what they have done. What a joke these hearings will be. As so many of us have said, Please Harriet, bow out now.

178 posted on 10/16/2005 9:35:19 PM PDT by Digger (Outsource CONgress)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

I went back and read lots of his posts. Seems like everyone here at FR is some type of traitor to W now. If anyone was stabbed in the back...it was us.

af_vet_1981 needs a tagline change. How about:

"If you can't lick them, lick their boots."


179 posted on 10/16/2005 9:35:44 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Luis Gonzalez
It's immaterial.

She was a managing partner at that firm, as the Miers acolytes never cease to point out when her meager qualifications are brought into question.

Those donations may have been made to PACs, but they still found their way into the hands of Madame Shrillary.

180 posted on 10/16/2005 9:36:49 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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