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To: Rodney King

re:24
How's that work? Are they scholarships or is it free because someone else (their government) is paying for their fees? I'm having a hard time believing that Oklahoma isn't gettting paid somewhere.


33 posted on 10/16/2005 11:27:49 AM PDT by digitalbrownshirt (http://digitalbrownshirt.blogspot.com)
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To: digitalbrownshirt
How's that work? Are they scholarships or is it free because someone else (their government) is paying for their fees? I'm having a hard time believing that Oklahoma isn't gettting paid somewhere.

What happens is that the people who rate business schools, like US News and world report, put a huge value on "diversity" and % of international students in the student body in their rankings. Also, Dean's like to go to cocktail parties and pat each other on the back for being so enlightend as to have a more diverse student body that other similar schools.

So, there are a certain amount of scholaships endowed by alumni, but given away at the discration of the Deans. They mostly go to foreign students. Then, the Dean's have the power to give away graduate assistanceships. These pay say 10 bucks an hour, guaranteed, plus medical benefits, and you rarely have to do anything, so it is like getting paid to study. The foreign students get all the plum 20 hour per week jobs.

So the net result is Oklahoma taxpayers shell ought dough for foreign students, maybe 10% of them actually stay and work in Oklahoma. For most it is just a roundabout way to get to New York on someone else's dime.

40 posted on 10/16/2005 11:34:36 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: digitalbrownshirt

To be clear, there are exceptions. I was over-generalizing. There were natives who had good scholarships, and foreigners who paid, but for the most part foreigners paid very little, while natives paid full or close to full in-state tuition.


43 posted on 10/16/2005 11:36:01 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: digitalbrownshirt; Rodney King

"re:24
How's that work? Are they scholarships or is it free because someone else (their government) is paying for their fees? I'm having a hard time believing that Oklahoma isn't gettting paid somewhere."

I know the foreign students I attend classes with, including the grad students, are paying full tuition. The only exception is for the TA's. They pay full tuition, but they often also get tuition credits (which don't cover the fees, just the tuition.) They also get paid for the teaching part, at something like minimum wage. I was set up for a similar program, but it fell through at the last moment, so I'm attending part-time, rather than full-time, and working as a substitute teacher in a local public school. This MAY be different for students in the geosciences department, but I don't know. I do know that SOME countries send their kids here, tuition paid. Saudi Arabia was one, at one time, don't know if they still are. Hope that helps; post 24 is right, and wrong, depending on who and which program.


And scrolling down further, I see he expanded on his post,as well, to tell you just what I did, as well...

Reminder to self: read the whole thread before posting... writing that on the board 50000000 times!!!


182 posted on 10/16/2005 3:55:22 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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