Victor Davis Hanson: An American “Debacle”? More unjustified negativity on the war in Iraq

NRO ^ | October 14, 2005 | Victor Davis Hanson

[Tolik]

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[MNJohnnie]

Zbigniew Brzezinski, former national-security adviser to President Carter,

Gee Zbig if YOU and Peanut Boy had done your JOBS and nipped this in the bud THEN when it STARTED, we would not have this mess today. Don't you and peanut head DARE criticize better men cleaning up YOUR mess.

[MNJohnnie]

Victor Davis Hanson Ping !

Can I get on this list please.

[bkepley]

Relax, he's a partisan still hoping for a position and everyone knows it. What's he going to do, turn Republican?

[Obadiah]

I honestly believe that because of the whole Harriet Miers deal that the liberals and their media handmaidens, absolutely sense blood in the water with respect to the Bush presidency. I'm sure that lurkers at this site get a certain sense. This upsets me no end. I don't mind a good family argument, but it must not derail the serious work that is being done and still needs to be done. We cannot let the LATimes, the media, the Carter retreads, and others attempt to reestablish a national malaise.

[traderrob6]

It's "The Big News" with Zbigniew Brzezinski.

[Jenny Hatch]

Put me on your ping! He has been such a steady, reasoned voice in this whole thing. I love the guy!

Jenny

[Tolik]

Gee Zbig if YOU and Peanut Boy had done your JOBS and nipped this in the bud THEN when it STARTED, we would not have this mess today. Don't you and peanut head DARE criticize better men cleaning up YOUR mess.

Nailed it! 100% agree.

[Tolik]

Added to the VDH ping list. Thanks

[BadAndy]

"It's "The Big News" with Zbigniew Brzezinski."

I hear the Zbig will be on the next season of "The Sureal Life"

[FreedomPoster]

Aside from the unintended irony that the classical historian Arnold Toynbee himself was not always “adroit,” but wrong in most of his determinist conclusions, and that such criticism comes from a high official of an administration that witnessed on its watch the Iranian-hostage debacle, the disastrous rescue mission, the tragicomic odyssey of the terminally ill shah, the first and last Western Olympic boycott, oil hikes even higher in real dollars than the present spikes, Communist infiltration into Central America, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the Cambodian holocaust, a gloomy acceptance that perpetual parity with the Soviet Union was the hope of the day, the realism that cemented our ties with corrupt autocracies in the Middle East (Orwellian sales of F-15 warplanes to the Saudis minus their extras), and the hard-to-achieve simultaneous high unemployment, high inflation, and high interest rates, Mr. Brzezinski is at least a valuable barometer of the current pessimism over events such as September 11.

That's one heckuva sentence, and a great summary of the Carter era.

[RedEyeJack]

There is nothing in Iraq that even approximates a serious military challenge. It is psychological warfare being waged against the will of the American people to stay the course and do what has to be done to fulfill the "white man's burden".

If the terrorists start to mount battalion, company, or even platoon sized attacks successfully against U.S. forces in Iraq then we will be facing a real threat. The loss of American life is a price we must face but we know how to defeat this type of foe if... we can sustain ourselves on the "home front" in the face of the weak willed and political opportunists.

[JamesP81]

Another home run by VDH

[JamesP81]

Put me on this ping list too, if you don't mind

[Tolik]

Added to the VDH ping list. Thanks

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[hershey]

VDH tells it like it is.

[cdrw]

This is the unfortunate lesson our enemies took from Viet Nam. They all believe / perceive that the US can be defeated by the evening news. This has emboldened every US enemy and enemy wannabe on the planet. Saddam taunted us, Iran taunts us, Libya taunted us, N. Korea taunts us, Venezuela taunts us, Syria taunts us, the Jihadi's taunt us, it just goes on and on. They believe they don't have to "win", they just have to prevent their local opponents from gaining critical mass until we leave.

[dirtboy]

And as for Mr. Brzezinski’s indictment — most of us still would prefer the United States of 2005 to the chaotic America of 1977-80 under an administration that did little to confront the rise of Islamic fundamentalism, which began in earnest on its watch with the real debacle in Tehran.

Hey, Brzezinski - how does it feel to be VDH's bitch? And get slapped?

[Paradox]

This whole WOT is the fault of the CARTER administration. Two reasons, the fall of the Shah, who, while not perfect, was a far better man than what replaced him, and the invasion of Afganistan, which created the modern mujahedeen movement.

Just so our younger freepers never forget, Carter sucked, worse than Disco, he was awful. I loved him at the time, and hated Reagan, but I was wrong. Reagan "saved" us from that crap.