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Who asked you to butt in, anyway? Nobody. You say I don't have to put up with you any more? Good. You should have shut up from the very beginning.

And if you want to pretend that conversing with people who enjoy wallowing in ignorance is "intelligent discourse" it doesn't say much for your intelligence. But don't flatter yourself, though, by pretending that it's intelligent. It isn't. Calling an ignorant statement "just another viewpoint" is partly a lie (by pretending it is something that it is not) and partly cowardice on your part (by not having the guts to tell someone they're wrong). If you want to be a lying coward, that is your right. I choose not to be. Also, pretending an ignorant statement is the same as a knowledgeable one also does a disservice to the speaker. If he isn't made aware of his ignorance, how can you expect the ignorant ever to learn the real facts?

There's nothing wrong with telling someone they're wrong. How you do it separates the men from the boys.

You do seem to have to have difficulty, as I said, differentiating between intelligent discourse and a shouting match. The former gives some semblance of civility. The latter is something you seem to excel at and enjoy.

Now, it's entirely possible you've not been schooled in these finer elements of civilization. That's OK. There's nothing wrong with ignorance. It is especially well for your development when you recognize the shortcoming as such, and make honest attempts to assimilate your new learning experience. We hold out great hope for you!

Why should I have butt in in the first place? Well, first off, I didn't realize it was your forum. My apologies. Secondly, I admit - I responded in a moment of weakness. You threw out the bait with your Neanderthal attacks, and I brazenly, albeit unconsciously, took that bait and engaged you in what has become quite uncivil discourse.

It should also be mentioned that nowhere did I take a stand your, or your opponent's, "facts", thereby rendering the "ignorance" angle from you moot. My ax to grind with you is your demeanor in this thread, or what passes for it. Not content to insult this guy, belittle him, and try and pass yourself off as something superior, you play the aggrieved party when someone calls you on it. Yeah, I'm real impressed with you.

I'll give you back your board, but not before I mention that not only are tact and diplomacy not your strong suits, but they're quite apparently not even in your lexicon.

I'll admit - this "debate", such as it is, has been a waste of time, and I'm a poorer man for having wasted my time on you.

Have a nice day tomorrow!

CA....