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To: Oberon
He was firing on troops doing PT. They probably weren't carrying weapons.

When I was in BCT (B-3-1 Ft Ord, Oct 1966 since everyone seems to be bragging on this thread) We occasionally did "Rifle PT". But then, I suppose it's kind of pointless with the lightweight weapons they train with today. Also, in those days, our M-14s were kept in an unlocked rack in the center aisle of the barracks - not "Dorms", Barracks; spit shined center aisle, foot lockers, butt cans, fire guard at night. Just like in the WWII John Wayne movies. They don't do that anymore.

My Dad used to tell a story about two rival platoons in adjacent barracks that got into a gun battle shooting at each other from the barracks windows. That was at one of those temporary training camps in the South in about 1942 or 43. My cousin, who was in the Marines in the early 1960s actually brought his M-14 to our house in the trunk of his car when he came to visit.

Anyway, by the mid 1970s the Army, at least, had locked up the weapons in an Arms Room and only issued them out for training or drill.

This guy was shooting with a personal firearm, a pistol, not his issue weapon. Lucky for the guys doing PT I'd say.

86 posted on 10/13/2005 5:52:44 PM PDT by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
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To: Chuckster
Fort Benning, 1965, BCT. We were 2d Platoon, some dickhead from 3d Platoon stepped on our well manicured (by hand, with scissors) lawn.

We were so pissed, we all donned steel pots, (no helmet liners,) entrenching tool with covers, underwear and boots, (why, I don't remember) and attacked them.

They fought back.

DSs were so delighted with our aggressive spirit, they have us an extra hour to clean our barracks that night.

We felt we had been given gold!
101 posted on 10/13/2005 7:03:30 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: Chuckster
This guy was shooting with a personal firearm, a pistol, not his issue weapon. Lucky for the guys doing PT I'd say.

Lucky for them he couldn't shoot, because that .357, espeically if loaded with expanding type bullets (ie. hollow points), would cause a lot more damage than the issue sidearm, which is a 9mm, and if firring issue FMJ ammo, just pokes 9mm holes, whereas the .357 with hollow points would make 9mm holes going in, and probably about 12-13 mm going out (9mm == .354 inches). If they went out that is, chances are they would shed part of the jacket inside, and the main part of the bullet might not exit either. All that energy would have been dumped inside the "target".

162 posted on 10/14/2005 10:53:40 PM PDT by El Gato
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