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To: Brilliant

Hard to disagree. There is nothing more I would wish for than for US and Russia to engage in constructive cooperation, çause I come from those part. Currently I am frustrated with both sides. But pumping $300 bln into the Chinese war machine by way of trade is plain suicidal.


22 posted on 10/13/2005 7:32:35 AM PDT by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: Mi-kha-el

Too damn bad they don't listen to us, huh?


23 posted on 10/13/2005 7:33:56 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Mi-kha-el
....pumping $300 bln into the Chinese war machine by way of trade is plain suicidal.

Forty years ago, a bigthink historian named C.J. Cutliffe Hyne wrote a book titled East vs. West, in which he pointed out that Asia and the West had always been at war, and that long, seesaw oscillations carried the momentum first one way, and then the other. He argued that European momentum, which had been carried forward since Lepanto, had been broken by the Russo-Japanese War and World War I, and that we probably had several centuries of retreat before us before the momentum changed again.

He also said that during its periods of recession, the West had had the advantage of sheltering behind "shield" empires: in the last oscillation before Lepanto, the "shield" was the Greek Empire of the Byzantines. In the next recessional, he predicted that Russia would supply the shield against Chinese expansionism.

To help the Russians keep Siberia, which would appear to be an overarching strategic goal right now, I personally favor a high-speed land-communication corridor from the eastern U.S., say upstate New York, across Canada and Alaska, generally following a great circle, across the Bering Strait to Yakutsk, then dividing: one segment bifurcating off down toward Irkutsk, and another toward Magadan and Khabarovsk (which is the hub city of the Russian Far East and the major garrison city of the RFE); and a second segment, following a new great circle far to the north, tying Yakutsk to the oilfield towns of Western Siberia (Surgut, etc.) and then Gorky and Moscow -- and then going on, perhaps, to Smolensk, Warsaw, and either Berlin or Prague and Munich, near the old American bases in Bavaria. One last leg of the web would be yet another great-circle route connecting Irkutsk to Sverdlovsk (Ekaterinburg) and Moscow, with a branch off to the north to reach the western Siberian oil fields, so that Irkutsk, a major arsenal city (Su-27's are manufactured there, and the Bratsk Dam hydroelectric complex is nearby) would be thoroughly backed up from both northeast and northwest.

Then the RFE would be tied both to Russian and European trade entrepots and military establishments in the West, and to Alaska and CONUS in the east, along lines of communication too deep for the Chinese to interdict.

That way, Siberia and Sakhalin don't end up becoming a Chinese resource area.

People in the West don't understand that many of the world's woefully underexplored, potentially petroliferous sedimentary basins are located in Siberia and the RFE and their ocean-shelf areas, which include a broad continental shelf all around the Sea of Okhotsk and the Kamchatka Peninsula.

84 posted on 10/15/2005 2:40:42 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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