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Harvest of death on the Eastern Shore (Illegal Alien Drunk Drivers)
Virginian Pilot Online ^ | October 13, 2005 | BILL BURKE

Posted on 10/12/2005 9:44:06 PM PDT by Travis McGee

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To: staytrue; Americanwolfsbrother

Plus I never said I wanted illegals to be better drivers... quit being a buffet intellectual and picking and choosing the points you want to argue and pick apart. Read entire statments..


101 posted on 10/13/2005 1:46:07 PM PDT by Americanwolf (I Served proudly.... how dare you tell me I have no convictions...)
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To: staytrue; Americanwolfsbrother

Plus I never said I wanted illegals to be better drivers... quit being a buffet intellectual and picking and choosing the points you want to argue and pick apart. Read entire statements..


102 posted on 10/13/2005 1:46:19 PM PDT by Americanwolf (I Served proudly.... how dare you tell me I have no convictions...)
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To: Americanwolf

posts 77, 99, 100 are all fair, honest and above board and that's great.

I applaud your directness and honesty.

Personally, I feel the current situation is out of control.
I think a guest worker program, weeding out the terrorists, criminals, etc. and reducing the numbers by half is what I think I want.


103 posted on 10/13/2005 1:48:54 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Travis McGee

I'm going to see Tom Tancredo tonight in Kalamazoo. I'll show him this.

I guess President Bush would call it accidents Americans won't do.


104 posted on 10/13/2005 1:49:45 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: staytrue

Glad your happy. Now would you just shut up and go away?AWB


105 posted on 10/13/2005 1:51:06 PM PDT by Americanwolfsbrother (Don't hate on someone for using their mind.)
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To: staytrue

Rich @$$holes never have to pay for their crimes like you and me.


106 posted on 10/13/2005 1:58:49 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: TomasUSMC
I guess President Bush would call it accidents Americans won't do.

It looks like there are plenty of Americans who will do this.

go here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1501968/posts

or read post 90 on this thread

107 posted on 10/13/2005 2:05:28 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue

And your point is, because there are already American drunk drivers, we should allow in millions of illegal aliens per year?


108 posted on 10/13/2005 2:16:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: staytrue
You want the illegals gone, then say you want the illegals gone.

Yes, I want the illegal alien criminal invaders deported, according to existing laws.

But do not say you want the illegals to be better drivers.

Who said that? We are saying that if the illegal alien criminal invaders were deported, according to the laws, these drunk driving vehicular homicides they are committing would not happen.

Then, their home countries could deal with their driving habits, and a lot of innocent law-abiding Americans would still be alive.

109 posted on 10/13/2005 2:20:19 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: TomasUSMC
Give that American patriot a big hello from San Diego!


110 posted on 10/13/2005 2:22:33 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Americanwolfsbrother

Please don't encourage him to go away. Every time a reply is made to this thread, 15 more lurkers will read the article.

Without his help, the thread would have died 75 posts back, and a thousand lurkers would not have read about this disgrace.


111 posted on 10/13/2005 2:24:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee
Trust me he won't go away. This is his 15 minutes of fame I'm sure. Limousine Liberals can't avoid the spotlight.AWB
112 posted on 10/13/2005 2:27:27 PM PDT by Americanwolfsbrother (Don't hate on someone for using their mind.)
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To: staytrue
>>A new law signed by Gov. Rod Blagojevich on July 26, however, is intended to keep drivers like Lane from driving.<<

It won't keep drivers like Lane from driving but it will place a penalty on them if they do. He will have his drivers license taken from him. Now just what penalty is that when millions of illegal aliens, who have never had a license, drive on our roads and highways?

Just what would it take for our legal system to put these people in work camps for a month. That would be a penalty that would mess with their world. One they wouldn't forget.

We owe a lot to the Elites, the newspapers and our elected leaders for the destruction of our homeland.

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years.”
David Rockefeller (1991)

113 posted on 10/13/2005 2:31:27 PM PDT by B4Ranch (In 3 to 5 seconds check- employees immigration status - http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/SAVE.htm)
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To: staytrue

"But do not say you want the illegals to be better drivers."

NO ONE HAS EVER SAID THAT! WE WANT THEM GONE!

Bayourod, is that you?


114 posted on 10/13/2005 2:32:53 PM PDT by flashbunny ("Somebody up there really screwed the pooch on this one." - Another Poster on the Miers nomination)
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To: Travis McGee
if the illegal alien criminal invaders were deported, according to the laws, these drunk driving vehicular homicides they are committing would not happen.

I guess you did not want to read the whole thread where on post 29 you would find

"Maybe yes, maybe no. If you kicked the illegals out in 2002, can you guarantee that if you brought in citizen migrant workers to pick the tomatos, that there would be less than the 18 traffic deaths in the following 2 years ?

Of course you can not. To guarantee that, you have to zero tomato pickers which is not an option."

115 posted on 10/13/2005 3:10:13 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: B4Ranch
He will have his drivers license taken from him. Now just what penalty is that when millions of illegal aliens, who have never had a license, drive on our roads and highways?

FYI, Mr. Lane died in the crash. No more need for a drivers license.

Part II. A guest worker program where the carrot is free movement to and from mexico and freedom from deportation would be incentive for the guest worker to get a license, buy insurance and behave like any other american to avoid losing guest worker priviledge.

116 posted on 10/13/2005 3:14:26 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Travis McGee
Please don't encourage him to go away. Every time a reply is made to this thread, 15 more lurkers will read the article.

I hope so. I believe my posts to be more honest and upfront than your attempt at reverse psychology.

117 posted on 10/13/2005 3:15:53 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: flashbunny
NO ONE HAS EVER SAID THAT! WE WANT THEM GONE!

An honest straightforward reply. I think you will have a lot of company in this remark.

And I will have a lot of company when I say that this whole thread about illegals driving poorly is an irrelevant fringe issue. The driving skills are easily fixable by requiring the illegals to upgrade their skills via a guest worker program.

118 posted on 10/13/2005 3:19:29 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue
" And I will have a lot of company when I say that this whole thread about illegals driving poorly is an irrelevant fringe issue"

Driving poorly? Understatement of the month right there.

And again, no, it's not irrelevant.

Innocent people are losing their lives because of people who should never be hear. Due to drunk driving and outright murder. Additional, illegal aliens are responsible for crimes like rape, assault, and various other crimes related to the rapidly growing illegal alien gangs.

It's not a 'fringe issue'. It's direct evidence that the "just doing jobs ordinary americans won't do" is an outright lie.
119 posted on 10/13/2005 3:23:59 PM PDT by flashbunny ("Somebody up there really screwed the pooch on this one." - Another Poster on the Miers nomination)
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To: staytrue
According to the article: The fatalities represent about one-fourth of the 71 highway deaths on the Eastern Shore in that period, even though the year-round Hispanic population makes up only 5 percent of the region’s 51,000 residents.

The carnage from illegals is vastly disproportionate to their numbers.

Other countries, like Australia, manage to pick crops without illegals or "guest workers". If we mechanized operations, paid legal workers more, and/or stopped giving welfare to the able-bodied, we could too.

120 posted on 10/13/2005 3:26:37 PM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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