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To: Ninian Dryhope
"The reputations of those who so treacherously opposed this nomination are going to be permanently damaged."

The President has a blind side. He tolerates disloyalty. Bush imposes no penalty on those who defy him, no price. To retain his power though, he should exercise it. Consequences! The ultimate control.

47 posted on 10/12/2005 4:24:17 AM PDT by Rapscallion (I trust you already. Now, tell me why, so I may verify.)
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To: Rapscallion; Stellar Dendrite; flashbunny
The President has a blind side. He tolerates disloyalty. Bush imposes no penalty on those who defy him, no price. To retain his power though, he should exercise it. Consequences! The ultimate control.

Gee, did I just hear you right?

Did you just ask for this President...who has forgotten he has a Veto pen...who supported Specter over Toomey....who is NOW working for Lincoln Chaffee in Rhode Island...who let TED FRICKIN' KENNEDY write the Education Bill, then attack the President over it...you want HIM to now "discipline" Conservatives who are tired of BOHICA-ing?

Let me paraphrase this....

"Will NO ONE rid em of these meddlesome Conservatives?!" sound about right?

Interestingly, the original statement "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest" was uttered by another Ruler...out of touch and demanding his way...King Henry II and Thomas Beckett. The paralells are striking...and a bit scary!

"Becket's big break came in 1154, when Theobold introduced him to the newly crowned King, Henry II. The two hit it off immediately, their similar personal chemistries forming a strong bond between them. Henry named Becket his Chancellor. Archbishop Theobold died in 1161, and Henry immediately saw the opportunity to increase his influence over the Church by naming his loyal advisor to the highest ecclesiastical post in the land. Henry petitioned the Pope who agreed. There was only A Medieval Massone slight hindrance. Becket, busy at court, had never been ordained. No problem, Becket was first invested as a priest. The next day he was ordained a Bishop, and that afternoon, June 2, 1162, made Archbishop of Canterbury.

If King Henry believed that by having "his man" in the top post of the Church, he could easily impose his will upon this powerful religious institution, he was sadly mistaken. Becket's allegiance shifted from the court to the Church inspiring him to take a stand against his king. In those days, the Church reserved the right to try felonious clerics in their own religious courts of justice and not those of the crown. Henry was determined to increase control of his realm by eliminating this custom. In 1163, a Canon accused of murder was acquitted by a church court. The public outcry demanded justice and the Canon was brought before a court of the king. Becket's protest halted this attempt but the action spurred King Henry to change the laws to extend his courts' jurisdiction over the clergy. Becket vacillated in his support of the king, finally refusing to agree to changes in the law. His stand prompted a royal summons to Henry's court at Northampton and the king's demand to know what Becket had done with the large sums of money that had passed through his hands as Chancellor.

Seeing the writing on the wall, Becket fled to France where he remained in exile for six years. The two former friends appeared to resolve their dispute in 1170 when King Henry and Becket met in Normandy. On November 30, Becket crossed the Channel returning to his post at Canterbury. Earlier, while in France, Becket had excomunicated the Bishops of London and Salisbury for their support of the king. Now, Becket remained steadfast in his refusal to absolve the bishops. This news threw King Henry (still in France) into a rage in which he was purported to shout: "What sluggards, what cowards have I brought up in my court, who care nothing for their allegiance to their lord. Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest."

The king's exact words have been lost to history but his outrage inspired four knights to sail to England to rid the realm of this annoying prelate. They arrived at Canterbury during the afternoon of December 29 and immediately searched for the Archbishop. Becket fled to the Cathedral where a service was in progress. The knights found him at the altar, drew their swords and began hacking at their victim finally splitting his skull.

Again...those who ignore History are DOOMED to repeat it! Can you say Kennedy, O'Conner, Souter?!?!

269 posted on 10/12/2005 7:39:07 AM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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