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Conservatives Jumping Gun On Court Pick (Jumping the gun AND the shark in one easy motion)
The New York Sun ^ | October 11, 2005 | Alicia Colon

Posted on 10/11/2005 10:03:46 AM PDT by quidnunc

Because I’m something of a rarity in New York City — a woman who is a pro-life columnist — I’ve been getting a lot of e-mail asking for my opinion of the nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court. My answer has been considered unsatisfactory, but it’s an honest one: I am withholding my opinion because I simply have not honed an ability to read someone’s mind. That has not prevented many right-wing pundits, such as George Will and Patrick Buchanan, from weighing in negatively on the president’s pick.

It seems to me, however, that they are all doing exactly what we criticize the liberal pundits for: jumping the gun to make a deadline. I’m all for mounting a battle for conservative principles, but wouldn’t it be wiser to wait until we’re sure they’re in imminent danger?

One would think that after the cruel vetting of Miguel Estrada by rabid-dog senators, these gladiators on the right would be predisposed to uniting behind the president they supported last year. Senator Schumer, along with Senators Leahy and Kennedy, has been ignoring the president’s right to select his Supreme Court nominee.Now conservatives are doing the exact same thing.The Republicans gave the ACLU’s counsel, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a pass because they acknowledged President Clinton’s right to select his Supreme Court justices. It’s appalling that they are showing less respect for President Bush.

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The extreme right-wing base may feel that Mr. Bush betrayed them, but I think that, sadly, the opposite is true.

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Preach it sister! Can I have an 'Amen'!?

(Excerpt) Read more at daily.nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: miers
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To: Pukin Dog
Think about what you just wrote.

Anyway......

Where you placed *crickets* would/ should most likely be the answer of:

"Sooooooooooo?"
101 posted on 10/11/2005 2:06:26 PM PDT by baystaterebel (http://omphalosgazer.blogspot.com/)
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To: Always Right
Bush would of had to show the leadership that Clinton did for a valid comparison.
Wrong. Clinton had the press behind him, and the Dims and the RINOS.

How many Senators do you think Bush has? 51?

If you think that, you should read more.

43?

Maybe.

Probably more like 40. That he can really count on.

That minority position, coupled with the fact that the MSM is a drum-beat of propaganda every minute of every day means that Bush can't act like Clinton.

Bush has to be Bush, not some kind of Bizarro-World Clinton.

And frankly, Bush is smarter doing it his way, than any way Clinton could ever come up with, or any way anyone here urging him to be like Clinton could ever come up with.

Let Bush be Bush; and let Miers speak before you condemn her.

102 posted on 10/11/2005 2:07:06 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: sydbas
Remember this group of 55 couldn't get John Bolton confirmed as he withered on the vine for months until President Bush gave him a recess appointment. I have my doubts, 55 senators or not, as to whether one of the 'brand name' nominees would ever get confirmed.

Did you know thatthe Senate is NOW sitting on two nominations for Circuit Courts of Appeal? Myers of the 9th Circuit since March, and Boyle (I forget which circuit) since June. ANd there are 4 other nominations in committee since February, that were renominated from the previous Congress.

The GOP, and I mean the so-called conservative mebers of the Senate and President Bush, have not uttered a peep of protest.

Meek and timid.

103 posted on 10/11/2005 2:07:57 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Pukin Dog
Pukin dog - I didn't mean to imply above that the very interesting thread you posted yesterday indicated that YOU were defeatist;

Your analysis, however, indicated a defeatist mentality on the part of the Administration - if the "we-can't-get-anybody-else-confirmed" mentality was indeed behind this nomination....

104 posted on 10/11/2005 2:08:22 PM PDT by Al Simmons (http://www.mumbogumbo.com - check it out...)
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To: Lazamataz
You asked, I answered. I'm too apathetic to repeat it or expand on it further.
It's working. I'm losing interest too.
105 posted on 10/11/2005 2:08:50 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Lazamataz
The sad fact is, the Republican Base and the Republican Party are in the midst of a divorce -- and no amount of namecalling from the mushy moderates will patch things up.

Yeah, but namecalling from the GOP party appratus and party hacks will intimidate the conservatives into submission.

106 posted on 10/11/2005 2:09:22 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: 68 grunt
The President is playing chess while you're playin' checkers.
Absolutely right.
107 posted on 10/11/2005 2:09:30 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Lazamataz; Artemis Webb
[ You should feel nailed. You've been nailed as a moderate RINO Republican. I'm not sure what you are doing on this forum, other than to spread your deadly virus.]

LoL...

108 posted on 10/11/2005 2:09:49 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe
So, you're a RINO who joined this forum a year before I did?

Somehow, I doubt it!!!!!!!!!*LOL*

109 posted on 10/11/2005 2:11:21 PM PDT by Al Simmons (http://www.mumbogumbo.com - check it out...)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Is anyone in the GOP leadership willing to allow a schism in the party for Harriet Miers?

Maybe all of them are "willing." It might even be an "in your face" plan.

110 posted on 10/11/2005 2:11:35 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

The votes aren't there. What do the letters RINO stand for? The commie-leftist America has a minimum of 55 votes in congress. Patriotic America has 45 votes. At most.


111 posted on 10/11/2005 2:11:52 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: FastCoyote

I would say a populist is the opposite of an elitist.


112 posted on 10/11/2005 2:12:03 PM PDT by The Grammarian
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To: samtheman
How many Senators do you think Bush has? 51?

If you think that, you should read more.

43?

Maybe.

Where do you come up with the 43 figure? If Bush wants this nomination, and he obviously does the GOP Senators will give it to him just like they will the inexperienced 36 year old Julie Myers for ICE. Opposition, if there is to be any must come from grassroots supporters who put him into office.

113 posted on 10/11/2005 2:13:31 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: samtheman
How many Senators do you think Bush has? 51?

Bush has about 48 Senators, and if McCain wants any chance at becoming President, 49. I don't know if he could have picked up a couple more to defeat the filibuster. But I would have liked our chances at picking up a few more Senate seats had the Democrats filibustered. Do you really think Hillary wants to filibuster a Sumpreme Court nominee. Or how about the Senator from Florida. What would a filibuster do for his chances? Besides the Democrats, I would love to see what RINO's would be out there in opposition to the President. Put the spotlight on them and turn up the heat. Would it have succeeded? How many GOP Senators would oppose Bush if funding from the RNC is cut off? There are all kinds of tricks you can use in pursuading a few key votes. I am disappointed it wasn't tried, and I really think in the long run it hurt the party.

114 posted on 10/11/2005 2:14:13 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: gogeo

I wasn't addressing you specifically. I was pointing out to everyone here what I see are the similarities of all of Bush's critics. They all think he's stupid. They all think he's personally betrayed them. They all think they could do it better. Period. If you're not one of those, more power to you. My list still stands. Even if I clicked on the wrong name to post it.


115 posted on 10/11/2005 2:15:04 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Always Right
I am disappointed it wasn't tried
I feel your disappointment.

But there are other considerations than preventing Freepers from feeling disappointed.

Bush is playing the game to win, not to have a rock'n'roll rauckus knock-down drag-out fight.

116 posted on 10/11/2005 2:17:42 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman
Bush is playing the game to win, not to have a rock'n'roll rauckus knock-down drag-out fight.

Wrong, Bush was playing not to lose. Huge difference. Harriet Miers is the prevent defense.

117 posted on 10/11/2005 2:22:14 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Al Simmons
Think about the performance of the Republican Senate this year. Now, do you feel optimistic? Sometimes defeatism is just acceptance of reality. Our Republican Senate is the biggest collection of liars and losers ever assembled. Yet, each one of them thinks themselves the smartest guy in the room.
118 posted on 10/11/2005 2:22:30 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: meandog
if you really believe that 61-year-old CORPORATE lawyer who has never made law review, never had a criminal case tried in court, never said anything of public legal theory revelance, never published anything that was peer reviewed; if you really believe that a graduate of a (SMU) law school so insignificant it couldn't even make the Newsweek list "is the best qualified candidate that I could find,"

William H. Rehnquist

Background

Education/Work/Legal

Bar Admission Arizona, 1953

Experience None<

Father's Office None

Federal Judicial Position(s) Law Clerk, Justice Robert Jackson, 1952-53

Federal Political Position(s) Assistant attorney general, 1969-71

Graduate Education Stanford, M.A. 1948

Law Practice Arizona, 1953-69

Law School Stanford, Graduated 1952

William H. Rehnquist Background

119 posted on 10/11/2005 2:22:34 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Lazamataz

I think that particular anecdote would be rather more persuasive if the unnamed "Republican lawyer" who reported it to Frum (who was you will recall fired from the Bush White House) had passed on some detail and context. There's a beginning (of sorts) and an end, but there seems to be a gaping hole in the middle of the story! ;-)


120 posted on 10/11/2005 2:23:53 PM PDT by maryz
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