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The Miers revolution [Offending your supporters has real-world consequences]
National Post ^ | Oct. 11, 2005 | David Frum

Posted on 10/11/2005 5:30:20 AM PDT by conservativecorner

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To: kjam22

And another point - maybe you should look to the one who caused the huge rift in the party. His choice will lead to even lower poll numbers and make it harder for congressional Republicans to win. Doesn't he deserve a good share of the blame for putting the Republican Party in this position when it so easily could have been avoided?


81 posted on 10/11/2005 6:28:17 AM PDT by al_again
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To: syriacus
Does it really matter if it was before or after Frum was kicked out of the White House?

Let's look at this great "pit bull" Miers. Why does Reid like her so much? Because she never takes a position on a controversial issue. If you look at the Pubs stealth nominees to SCOTUS they are almost always turned to liberals. Why? Because the RATS put the most strident ideologs they can get on the SCOTUS. Why have Scalia and Thomas been such bright stars of conservatism? Because they were strong outspoken voices of conservatism before they were nominated, can any of that be said for Miers? NO! What can be said for Miers nobody truly knows where she stands on the great issues of the day.
82 posted on 10/11/2005 6:28:56 AM PDT by wmfights (lead, follow, or get out of the way)
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To: Pietro
Actually... your more Nauseating (just kidding). Focus.....Focus....Focus, now take a breath and say three times: I will not knock fellow conservatives or any one else who is not a complete screaming liberal, because we need all the help we can get. Half a loaf is better than none. Incremental change, one baby step at a time.
83 posted on 10/11/2005 6:28:58 AM PDT by mastergibs (Stand up, tell them how you feel and then smack them in the chin.)
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To: rbmillerjr
"A Gallup Poll shows only 58% of conservatives supported Miers"

That's a great starting point. After the hearings it'll be at an 80% mark. What is this "only" stuff?

84 posted on 10/11/2005 6:30:00 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: al_again
Maybe he picked someone that he KNEW would vote with Scalia and Thomas. Cause that's the bottom line.

Maybe he didn't. Maybe she's a big ole rino. But our demonizing her is not going to help one thing. Not one thing at all.

85 posted on 10/11/2005 6:30:01 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: ClearCase_guy

Even if he had put up a great conservative with a record, do you think he or she would have gotten through even with a fight? I seriously doubt it. We have misdirected the anger away from the RINOs in the Senate who cannot be counted on. When push comes to shove we really do not have a majority. If we want this fight, fight it where it counts. Our support must go to those who are bonified conservatives. No middle of the road candidates. RINOs rule right now. Don't like it, change it.


86 posted on 10/11/2005 6:31:34 AM PDT by maxter
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To: conservativecorner
"Advocates of the appointment have accused critics of "sexism" and "elitism"...There are probably few tactics less likely to impress a conservative audience."

yep.
87 posted on 10/11/2005 6:31:56 AM PDT by Mulch (tm)
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To: Dane
Ah so you relish your role as a political whore.

Seems to me that you already have a lock on that position.

88 posted on 10/11/2005 6:32:15 AM PDT by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: kjam22

If Miers makes it to the court, she sure won't owe the conservative elites any favors, will she?

(Yeah, yeah...I know it ain't supposed to run that way, but....)

They haven't even given her a chance yet to open her mouth.


89 posted on 10/11/2005 6:34:02 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: kjam22
Can you please give examples of people demonizing her???
90 posted on 10/11/2005 6:34:35 AM PDT by al_again
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To: RGSpincich

"A Gallup Poll shows only 58% of conservatives supported Miers"
That's a great starting point. After the hearings it'll be at an 80% mark. What is this "only" stuff?"

If you can't spin any better than that I suggest you inquire with the Clinton people...they are good at it.

Nearly 50% of conservatives are against Miers...and you think that is good?? It is a catastrophe. Bush screwed the pooch.


91 posted on 10/11/2005 6:34:54 AM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: syriacus
"Both Krauthammer and Kristol felt the President's nominees deserved a vote."

Fine, then vote her down. That would be far worse politically and cause even greater damage to the party.

92 posted on 10/11/2005 6:35:34 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: al_again
Just read Coulter, Frum, Kristol etal. According to them she's just some stupid old lady who couldn't find her way across the street in the rain.
93 posted on 10/11/2005 6:37:08 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: kjam22

"You gotta step into the real world. People are people. This is a political court. Making enemies on it is just plain stupid."

If this is true, we should stop critisizing Breyer, Stevens, Ginsberg, Souter, or Kennedy.

Maybe if we're nice to them they'll change their opinions on Roe, or Kelo.

Fat chance of that happening.

Have Scalia or Thomas changed their stances on issues to appeal to more people? Maybe that's why I like them.

Maybe that's what I expected from Bush WHEN HE PROMISED TO APPOINT PEOPLE LIKE THEM!


94 posted on 10/11/2005 6:37:25 AM PDT by InspiredPath1 (I'll shut up now.)
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To: al_again

I may agree with you on substance. But I dont trust you or anyone else to define what is conservative. In fact I dont even think the term is relevant. If you think all American's are equal under the constitution than I'm with ya. If you think the bill of Rights are the bedrock of protection of the citizen from the Government than we see eye to eye. If you think that the People loan power to the Government than we agree. If you believe that you are smarter than the President, then I suggest you run for office, give Americans your positions on the issues and woo them with your keen intellectual gifts. If you truly believe you are smart enough to do it than let me know an I will send money to your campaign.


95 posted on 10/11/2005 6:38:45 AM PDT by mastergibs (Stand up, tell them how you feel and then smack them in the chin.)
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To: syriacus

What difference does it make when we are discussing the SCOTUS? How about we stop the deflecting of the real questions?


96 posted on 10/11/2005 6:39:07 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: syriacus

No one is suggesting the Senate should filibuster her. The suggestion is that the President should withdraw the nominee, or that she should be voted down.


97 posted on 10/11/2005 6:39:33 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: jveritas
What do you want to do?

Miers should withdraw her name.

I'm of the opinion that Bush Sr knew exactly what Souter was and W knows what Miers is, both bones thrown to the liberals of both parties.

Your language is insulting. Just as is that 'female nut' with the insulting T shirt flying from coast to coast.

98 posted on 10/11/2005 6:40:11 AM PDT by duckln
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To: Dane

Your ad hominem attack is ridiculous and only reveals the emptiness of your point of view. But it's not only absurd, it's pathetic.


99 posted on 10/11/2005 6:40:24 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: InspiredPath1

Someone changed Souter and Kennedy? Don't you agree with that????


100 posted on 10/11/2005 6:41:13 AM PDT by kjam22
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