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The Miers revolution [Offending your supporters has real-world consequences]
National Post ^
| Oct. 11, 2005
| David Frum
Posted on 10/11/2005 5:30:20 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: KDD
should read:
So when the going gets tough the tough get consent forms?...from Harry Reid?
181
posted on
10/11/2005 8:34:14 AM PDT
by
KDD
(A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
To: Rutles4Ever
Still waiting?
Excuse me for attending to some responsibities first before checking replies.
You lied by omission in leaving out who Hewitt was speaking to, not just "spinning" all by his lonesome. I didn't catch his name but he isn't a "no name"; he's written a forward to one of Bork's books so I would think he has some standing in the conservative community.
You also offered a truncated list of who is in support as if they are the only entities.
Hewitt offers a valid perspective as do some (certainly not all or most) of the Miers critics and he wasn't spinning.
To: q_an_a
spoken like a man fired by his boss, who has nothing bigger to worry about but writing 600 words for an article every Tues or a speech once a month.Can't argue with that.
This has all the markings of a vendetta by Frum. He is burning bridges right and left, especially with his unnamed sources.
When Miers is confirmed and issues her first few opinions, on the side of Scalia and Thomas, these pundits who criticized her and Bush are going to be laughingstocks.
And Frum will be driving the lead clown car, with his shinola'd Hair-Club-for-Men coif plastered to his head like a shower cap.
183
posted on
10/11/2005 8:34:41 AM PDT
by
sinkspur
(If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
To: Cboldt
Amen brother. As I see it they are the one's who broke faith with us not the other way around.
184
posted on
10/11/2005 8:35:06 AM PDT
by
wmfights
(lead, follow, or get out of the way)
To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
he has a personal animus toward Miers How about all the others, Will, Kristol, Bork, and 50% of al Freepers including me.
Why do you confuse facts with motives, when they are not related? You sound like liberal trying to change the subject.
185
posted on
10/11/2005 8:35:46 AM PDT
by
duckln
To: syriacus
"Exactly the type of comment that makes her deserve a hearing....to defend her self from the rock-throwers."
Why? All you compassionate types will demand she be confirmed if she exhibits stupid tendencies. In fact I am sure you can get most of the Democrats to vote for her as well. After all you can't be compassionate if you advocate the elimination of supreme court nominees based on stupidity. That wouldn't be compassionate or politically correct would it?
186
posted on
10/11/2005 8:35:52 AM PDT
by
monday
To: Mini-14
He snookered us with Harriet Miers and maybe he snookered us with fake reasons for going to war. You win the award for the dumbest post of the day, and the day is still young.
Who else believed Hussein had WMD's? Clinton, France, Israeli intelligence, the UN...
Were they all trying to "snooker" you?
187
posted on
10/11/2005 8:37:30 AM PDT
by
sinkspur
(If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
To: duckln
And what do you do if she will not withdraw?!
188
posted on
10/11/2005 8:38:50 AM PDT
by
jveritas
(The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
To: syriacus
JRB has already passed Senate confirmation to the Federal District Court.Actually, she only "passed" as a result of a deal brokered by the Gang of 14. Had that not happened, she would not be on the Court today.
189
posted on
10/11/2005 8:39:00 AM PDT
by
sinkspur
(If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
To: cyncooper
Hewitt said it in his opening monologue.
Perhaps you weren't listening. I wasn't around for his shill - er, er GUEST - because I was too busy retching in the corner.
The truncated list is all you need to know. Heck, let's truncate it down to "Harry Reid" and "86" this nomination right there.
Hewitt's entitled to his opinion, so am I. He called conservatives "knuckleheads" in his opening monologue. He oughta stand on the corner with a sandwich board and a megaphone.
190
posted on
10/11/2005 8:39:15 AM PDT
by
Rutles4Ever
(Stuck on Genius)
To: Little Ray
But they should have been part of the solution, not a friend of the family. To say that Harriett Miers is not "part of the solution" as a member of Bush's administration is ridiculous.
191
posted on
10/11/2005 8:41:43 AM PDT
by
sinkspur
(If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
To: duckln
"How about all the others, Will, Kristol, Bork, and 50% of al Freepers including me."
Will is the MSM's pet conservative, who is called upon to trash conservatives and does so with gusto. Kristol is another MSM pet conservative who can be relied on to despise Bush because Bush didn't give him a job. And Bork doesn't believe that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right.
You've really got some stellar sorts on your side there.
And that leaves 50% of all FReepers. 50% of all FReepers are below average intelligence. That's an amazing correlation right there. Hmm...
"Why do you confuse facts with motives, when they are not related?"
Because there is precious little fact in Frum screeds, so motive's the main element I have to work with.
192
posted on
10/11/2005 8:45:04 AM PDT
by
BeHoldAPaleHorse
(MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! MORE! MORE! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
To: sinkspur
"When Miers is confirmed and issues her first few opinions, on the side of Scalia and Thomas, these pundits who criticized her and Bush are going to be laughingstocks."
Thats what Kennedy and Souter supporters said about their critics too. Who's laughing now? Republican presidents have placed most of the justices on the current supreme court, so why isn't it solidly conservative? Because Republican presidents insist on nominating people like Miers.
193
posted on
10/11/2005 8:45:44 AM PDT
by
monday
To: sinkspur
No it is not. What has she ever done to advance the cause of a conservative judiciary? Vetted a few judges?
Sorry. She was not the right person for the job. Bush has already struck out on CFR, Education, Drugs for Greedy Geezers, and bloated spending. There is absolutely no reason I should trust his judgement here. The President has proposed her, and she deserves her day in Congress, but, barring a remarkable performance, she should be told to go home!
194
posted on
10/11/2005 8:47:46 AM PDT
by
Little Ray
(I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
To: monday
If America legalized euthanasia for stupid people, your life expectancy would be measured in picoseconds.
195
posted on
10/11/2005 8:47:48 AM PDT
by
BeHoldAPaleHorse
(MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! MORE! MORE! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
To: monday
Republican presidents have placed most of the justices on the current supreme court, so why isn't it solidly conservative? Because Republican presidents insist on nominating people like Miers. You bozos have been criticizing Miers for her lack of a paper trail.
Then you pick two justices WITH paper trails as examples of bad judges.
When your head has stopped spinning, come back and make a coherent point.
196
posted on
10/11/2005 8:49:04 AM PDT
by
sinkspur
(If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
To: cyncooper
Miers has a proven record of making some hard calls...Such as?
To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
"And that leaves 50% of all FReepers. 50% of all FReepers are below average intelligence. That's an amazing correlation right there. Hmm..."
lol..... Just an observation, but Miers critics seem to have a higher average intelligence than supporters. I believe you are pointing out correlations that you might prefer to remain hidden.
198
posted on
10/11/2005 8:51:28 AM PDT
by
monday
To: RGSpincich
Like I said if you can't count, give it up. The undecided could not be considered against Miers. So, using 10% as undecided and the 58% approval, it would be safe to say that nearly 70% of conservatives are unopposed to Miers' nomination. Even if you are right, what's that 30% going to mean in donations, volunteering and voting?
I received a call from the RNC this morning, and I said NO D*MN WAY until we get a true Scalia/Thomas up for this nomination.
To: sinkspur
Thanks for clearing that up.
200
posted on
10/11/2005 8:53:10 AM PDT
by
syriacus
(Harriet Miers deserves hearings and an up/down vote, not rocks thrown by "Harriet's Harriers")
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