[Drammach]

The problem is that CO2 has between increasing steadily and rapidly since the early 1800's but global warming didn't start til almost 100 years later.

Then again, I read (somewhere) that CO2 increase "follows" global warming, it doesn't "lead"...

I subscribe to the Solar theory..
And I prefer to call it Natural Climate Change..
I don't care what the scientific "consensus" is on this subject..
There is no explanation for the shrinking of the Martian Polar Ice Caps that can show a human influence..
That's two different planets exhibiting the same climatic characteristics, and that rules out human influence..

[gondramB]

" There is no explanation for the shrinking of the Martian Polar Ice Caps that can show a human influence..
That's two different planets exhibiting the same climatic characteristics, and that rules out human influence.."


Between conservatives, that's fine to discuss but in terms of public debate Mars is not the right example - Mars is 150% as far away from the Sun as the earth but the temperature gets up to 68 degrees and the reason is the high concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. That's not the example we want to emphasize.

For internal discussion, Mars is tricky and the Earth and Mars correlating does not mean they have the same causation .

[laz]

There is no explanation for the shrinking of the Martian Polar Ice Caps that can show a human influence..

Not necessarily. Remember Sheila Jackson Lee said we put a flag on Mars. Then remember that Bush suggested to NASA we should go to Mars. That's more than enough for the DUmmies to connect the dots and figure out Bush has been drilling for oil on Mars and causing global warming there too.