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George Bush, the Manchurian candidate
Business Online ^ | October 09, 2005

Posted on 10/08/2005 3:00:04 PM PDT by AntiGuv

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To: AntiGuv

Sorry, but John Roberts was a BRILLIANT choice!!


41 posted on 10/08/2005 3:58:55 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: mdefranc
Not to mention signing Campaign Finance Reform after saying he would not because it was unconstitutional. It is, he signed it, and the Court that doesn't mind subverting the Constitution to enhance federal power blessed it.

Oh, and Bush pushed Congress to pass the largest socialistic expansion of government since LBJ, Medicare Prescription Drugs, a bill that Congress was resistant to passing until Bush pushed for it. As much as it pains to me to say it, the growth of government under Clinton was less than it has been under Bush. And if Clinton had passed the Patriot Act and Homeland Security without doing anything to control our borders, this website would be up in arms. The Bushbots here have earned the name.

42 posted on 10/08/2005 4:00:34 PM PDT by Reaganghost (Democrats are living proof that you can fool some of the people all of the time.)
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To: AntiGuv

"The Roberts appointment is not a disaster, though it shows a poverty of imagination."

ROFLMAO... Bush only picked the most qualified person out there... how "unimaginative" to not pick an ACLU lawyer like Clinton did.



43 posted on 10/08/2005 4:01:31 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: pgkdan

Does that apply all the pro-Meiers freepers who call anyone opposed to Meiers elitest, sexist, and trolls from DU?


44 posted on 10/08/2005 4:08:32 PM PDT by chae (American by birth, Angry by choice)
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To: Torie
"..both will be viewed as having had a more successful first term than second>"

Maybe my history is little rusty. My recollection is that during his second term Ronald Reagan laid the groundwork that ended the Cold War and brought down the Soviet Union, potentially avoiding a nuclear armageddon.

Nobody can predict the future, but if the real estate and stock markets roll over and fall, this thread may be debating the high point of Bush's second term.

45 posted on 10/08/2005 4:10:27 PM PDT by Reaganghost (Democrats are living proof that you can fool some of the people all of the time.)
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To: Reaganghost

Reagan laid the ground work in his first term. In his second, he was dogged by Iran Contra, and showed the first signs of mental aging. The evil empire collaped on Bush 1's watch.


46 posted on 10/08/2005 4:19:42 PM PDT by Torie
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To: AntiGuv

where's the BARF alert?


47 posted on 10/08/2005 5:03:29 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: saganite
The judgment of Miers will be determined by our US government officials through hearings...as it should be..not by speculation.

Stick a fork in it. It's done.

48 posted on 10/08/2005 5:08:51 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Republicans should give Miers a fair vote.)
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To: carl in alaska
You can bet your last chips in a game of Texas hold-em that neither John nor Harriet are a tabula rasa to George W. Bush.
That's my opinion. We have Freepers and others going balistic because they don't know Miers just like they didn't know Souter. The difference is that Bush41 didn't know Souter, either - and Bush43 is, to no small degree, about not making mistakes he knows his dad made.

Bush43 is gonna retire to Texas in three short years - and he knows he'll be hearing about how his SCOTUS nominees turned out for the rest of his life.


49 posted on 10/08/2005 5:31:00 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: Ben Mugged

The "two more" is exactly what I think GW was playing for. He knows Meiers is a solid choice, but can't be shown to be hard right because she has no track record. He is trying to entice another Supreme into retirement, by demonstrating his care for the country and doing what is "right" over doing what is "Right"(wing).

He'd better be careful though - that crony label is starting to get sticky. Also - there are quite a few uncomfortable points in this letter - immigration, runaway budget, lack of SS reform - I trust GW, but I hope he knows what he is doing.


50 posted on 10/08/2005 6:10:23 PM PDT by Mr. Rational (God gave me a brain and expects me to use it)
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To: saganite
The bushbots will be here shortly to condemn these "elitists".

So you will preemptively condemn anyone who disagrees with the you as "bushbots." That makes you superior how?

51 posted on 10/08/2005 6:19:54 PM PDT by TN4Liberty (American... conservative... southern.... It doesn't get any better than this.)
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To: Mr. Rational

Julie Myers, another inexperienced Bush lawyer, has been nominated to run the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency.

That nomination is still making me scratch my head. I want to trust Bush, I really do, but there are these nagging doubts...

52 posted on 10/08/2005 6:29:51 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: carl in alaska
Agreed;==the "rock bottom certainty" is that "W" knows "Who he's Nominated;" the Only Question is, Do we want His People??

So far, his Judgement has been OK.

I THINK we should give him the "Benefit of the Doubt" & see how his Choices "Work Out!!"

We Hired the guy to be our "CEO;" SO FAR, he's Done OK!!

Doc

53 posted on 10/08/2005 6:34:18 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: AntiGuv
President Bush and his entourage are cultural conservatives, rather than radicals in the mould of Reagan, who was driven by his belief that freeing individuals and liberating the economy would produce a new and better society.

Ah, yes. Ronald Reagan, who knew nothing about Sandra Day O'Connor or Anthony Kennedy, and nominated them both.

Ronald Reagan, who cut and ran after 267 Marines were killed in Lebanon.

Ronald Reagan, who signed ZERO anti-abortion bills.

Ronald Reagan, who cut taxes, then raised them again, two years later.

I loved Ronald Reagan, who restored hope to this country after Jimmy Carter's malaise. But he had three SC picks, and he struck out on two of them.

54 posted on 10/08/2005 6:47:13 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: Ben Mugged
There are no guarantees when it comes to SCOTUS pick, amigo. Many of us have worked for years to get to the point where we could change the courts in a positive way. Bush had his chance to make the change, and ducked making a gutless pick.

This bloodletting amongst us folks is not a bad thing. Some things are worth fighting over and the role of the courts is one of them. If we lose the Senate in '06 what have we lost? It hasn't really benefited us very much. If you win elections you are expected to lead.

We have won elections and we have not led. We have been timid and spineless in the Senate. We are retreating from our past boldness in the House. We appear to be aimless in the WH. Given our overall failure to lead the country, the people of this country would be well within their rights to kick us out of the capitol and the WH.

55 posted on 10/08/2005 6:55:12 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: TN4Liberty

A certain faction preemptively trashes anyone who dares to disagree with Bush on this nomination. Does that make them superior?


56 posted on 10/08/2005 6:57:13 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: carl in alaska
I expect Harriet to get on the court and then proceed to kick the crap out of liberal elitists. She and Roberts will refuse to create special rights to gay marraige and abortion at any time for any female at any age. These special rights do not exist in our constitution and these two will refuse to amend our contstitution by judical decree.
Within one year --- two at the most --- there will be ample evidence that Roberts and Miers were the right picks at the right time. I wonder how many of the people here who are screaming that Bush betrayed them will return to this forum and honestly admit they were wrong.
57 posted on 10/08/2005 6:57:16 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman; Always Right; steveegg
Well, I have a $100 bet riding on Roberts and am more than willing to place one on Miers too. Any takers?

The bet is whether Roberts/Miers will be in full agreement with either Thomas or Scalia in 90% of rulings this next year. I say no.

For Miers, we'd need to go with the 06-07 session.

58 posted on 10/08/2005 7:04:44 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: samtheman

We do well not to evaluate the propriety of a decision by simply anticipating or projecting that one day in the future all will be well. Our role as citizens of the republic is to evaluate the propriety of any decision based on the evidence we have at hand and experience. Anything else is an implicit faith in men. No one should be expected to engage in that.


59 posted on 10/08/2005 7:05:04 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Does that make them superior?

Nope. I think they are cut from the same cloth. Meaningless name-calling is the same no matter who does it.

60 posted on 10/08/2005 7:16:25 PM PDT by TN4Liberty (American... conservative... southern.... It doesn't get any better than this.)
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