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Evolution and intelligent design Life is a cup of tea
Economist ^ | 10/6/05 | Economist

Posted on 10/07/2005 4:59:16 AM PDT by shuckmaster

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To: Junior

Oh, and you do? Where's your facts?


481 posted on 10/09/2005 11:33:31 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
So for you, whatever the government does is just fine and dandy? Again, what are you doing supporting slavery on a forum called The Free Republic?

Show me where I ever said everything the government does is fine and dandy with me. Read my tagline. By your statement it is obvious you haven't read my other posts. By the way, I thought Free Republic meant a "free exchange of thought". I guess you believe if it only pertains to your thoughts.

482 posted on 10/09/2005 11:36:57 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Junior
So much for an "inalienable right" to liberty, huh?

Don't be surprised if some day there will be no Constitution in this country and then you would be right. "So much for an 'inalienable right'".

483 posted on 10/09/2005 11:41:12 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: taxesareforever
"Show me where I ever said everything the government does is fine and dandy with me."

Right here:

"What I am saying is if government allows slavery than slavery is permissible."

"Read my tagline."

What do you care if government is running amuck? If the government says it's OK, then it's permissible to you.

"By the way, I thought Free Republic meant a "free exchange of thought"

Not when you are making excuses for slavery.
484 posted on 10/09/2005 11:45:04 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: taxesareforever

"Don't be surprised if some day there will be no Constitution in this country and then you would be right. "So much for an 'inalienable right'".

What do you care, whatever the Government does is permissible to you. Governments are instituted by God, and how could any government do anything against God then?


485 posted on 10/09/2005 11:48:55 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: taxesareforever

"Please tell me what the difference would be between government sanctioned abortion and government sanctioned slavery?"

Nothing. If the Government santions it, how could you not find it permissible?


486 posted on 10/09/2005 11:50:53 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: taxesareforever

Then of course there is the statement that brought you all this trouble:

"My position on slavery? I don't consider it is wrong to have slaves."

Not much wiggle-room there.


487 posted on 10/09/2005 12:07:26 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Then of course there is the statement that brought you all this trouble:

It wasn't just that one statement. He made several posts before it that implied that was his position. It was just the one post where he got the brass to admit it directly in words that all can understand.

488 posted on 10/09/2005 12:09:51 PM PDT by Thatcherite (Feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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To: Thatcherite; taxesareforever

Well, the Nazis assumed power under the German Constitution. So I guess our friend taxes must think everything they did was "permissible," if not exactly meeting entirely with his/her/its approval.


489 posted on 10/09/2005 12:09:59 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Junior; taxesareforever; SmartCitizen
So much for an "inalienable right" to liberty, huh?

Oh, I'm sure SmartCitizen (Logician, Constitutional Expert, and All-Round Good Fellow), can explain to us how an "inalienable right" to liberty really means "no right to liberty whatever."

490 posted on 10/09/2005 12:13:41 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs; taxesareforever
Romans 13:1-2,
Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
491 posted on 10/09/2005 12:20:06 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets

Uh-oh. Do you think if we ask real nice England will take us back?


492 posted on 10/09/2005 12:28:02 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs

Not sure. Maybe we should apologize to Germany for being so mean a few years back and turn over England to them when we give France back.


493 posted on 10/09/2005 12:34:43 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Gumlegs
Uh-oh. Do you think if we ask real nice England will take us back?

What! A bunch of rebellious colonists who think football is played by men in armour? You've got to be joking.

494 posted on 10/09/2005 12:34:48 PM PDT by Thatcherite (Feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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To: Dimensio
On a related note, not to long ago I saw someone on FR attempt to "prove" that Darwin was a racist by bringing up a very clearly segregationist quote. Except that the quote wasn't from Darwin at all, it was from Abraham Lincoln.

LOL!

One of the most audacious attempts I ever saw involved a whole series of quotes from Darwin's Descent of Man. They were all valid quotes, alright, but from a section where Darwin was considering the arguments for "polygenism" (mankind as multiple species, and possibly with separate or at least ancient origins for the various races) versus "monogenism" (mankind as a single species with relatively recent origins for the races, and/or with the races interpenetrating and grading into each other).

This controversy was inherited from the preceding creationist paradigm and was still a live issue at the time Darwin was writing. What Darwin did in this section was to have an imaginary polygenist and monogenist each give their best arguments on several relevant issues, with Darwin then commenting on and evaluating each in his own voice.

What this creationist did was to go through that whole section and quote only from the arguments and evaluations Darwin attributed to his imaginary monogenist, ignoring and suppressing the fact that within a paragraph or three Darwin had explicitly disagreed with and refuted every one of them. (I.e. on each major consideration Darwin sided with the monogenist view.)

495 posted on 10/09/2005 12:43:21 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Thatcherite; spunkets
I guess we'll never make it as a theocracy, then.

Some posters are going to be awfully disappointed.

496 posted on 10/09/2005 12:47:24 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: taxesareforever
It's all just a Google search away...

Dear Lord, why do you send me opponents incapable of research?

Really?

It seems awfully unfair to them, if you ask me.

497 posted on 10/09/2005 12:50:37 PM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: taxesareforever

Since you're the one who considers slavery to be all right as long as the government sanctions it, I'd lay money it will be people like you who obviate the Constitution eventually.


498 posted on 10/09/2005 12:53:04 PM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: spunkets
Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.

Either the clearest example of assuming the conclusion in the Bible, or the most amazing justification for power grabbing imaginable. By this line of reasoning, any who manages to achieve power by any means has the mantle of God.

499 posted on 10/09/2005 12:56:04 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: Junior

All the history that I was supposed to learn in high school is suddenly coming alive. The scary thing the people who made the past the paradise it was are still voting. I do mean the European feudal past.


500 posted on 10/09/2005 1:00:47 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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