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| 10/06/05
| Laura Hollis
Posted on 10/06/2005 7:15:47 PM PDT by jdhljc169
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To: griffin
Believe it or not....my pastor, a 5 point calvinist, works in a local nightclub let me guess... he didn't choose to do it
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posted on
10/07/2005 12:38:19 AM PDT
by
The Red Zone
(Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
To: SpringheelJack
The goal is to win the game. What I have discovered is a woman of great accomplishments. If you have no desire to surf the net to find out more about her, then wait until the hearings. We all will find out who she is and I am optomistic that she will rally the nation behind her.
To: jonrick46
We all will find out who she is and I am optomistic that she will rally the nation behind her.I doubt that's going to happen. I think momentum is building that will eventually torpedo her nomination.
To: jonrick46
Her accomplishments are leadership type accomplishments. She is suitable for an Executive Branch position like she has now. However, to the extent she leads her law clerks at SCOTUS, she will need to give them some direction on her judicial philosophy. What will that be? We should not have to hope, it would be better to know.
If she is an efficient and effective leader yet votes like O'Connor, which one of her long time friends suggests is likely, will that make you happy?
To: SpringheelJack
If they torpedo Miss Miers, they will have squandered a tactic that will work for us. As for her credentials, what are they talking about? This woman has been recognized in Texas for great accomplishment. Is not Texas good enough? Is this another instance of East Coast snobbery?
To: jonrick46
If they torpedo Miss Miers, they will have squandered a tactic that will work for us.It's a garbage tactic if it leads to Souters, as it has.
As for her credentials, what are they talking about? This woman has been recognized in Texas for great accomplishment. Is not Texas good enough? Is this another instance of East Coast snobbery?
She's had a nice career but it doesn't give a whiff of Supreme Court. People from all around the country think that. It's not a regional thing.
To: jonrick46
Great resume; she's perfectly suited to be "the first woman to chair the White House Wednesday afternoon Rotary Club meetings" - now cite her judicial philosophy for us, ok?
Whoops. She has none.
Bush Jr. has screwed us before with his "trust me" schtick, just like his dad's "read my lips" lie. Enough of that.
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posted on
10/07/2005 1:36:15 AM PDT
by
Hank Rearden
(Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
To: SpringheelJack
There was a Texas FReeper-not my good friend DC-who was ripping into this nomination earlier tonight.
Wish I could recall his handle.
To: Rumierules
President Bush knows her heart. I trust that he has a clear vision of what her values are. She will be a leader on the Supreme Court. With her leadership she will, according to President Bush, "an American of grace, judgment and unwavering devotion to the Constitution and laws of our country." America "will find that Harriet Miers' talent, experience and judicial philosophy make her a superb choice to safeguard the constitutional liberties and equality of all Americans." And, "Harriet's life has been characterized by service to others, and she will bring that same passion for service to the Supreme Court of the United States. I've given a lot of thought to the kind of people who should serve on the federal judiciary. I've come to agree with the late Chief Justice William Rehnquist, who wrote about the importance of having judges who are drawn from a wide diversity of professional backgrounds. Justice Rehnquist himself came to the Supreme Court without prior experience on the bench, as did more than 35 other men, including Byron White. And I'm proud to nominate an outstanding woman who brings a similar record of achievement in private practice and public service."
I think President Bush said it all. We just have to listen to him.
To: jonrick46
No, we don't.
Not on this!
To: Hank Rearden
"she's perfectly suited to be "the first woman to chair the White House Wednesday afternoon Rotary Club meetings" Uh-huh. She has done community service also: In 1989, she was elected to a two-year term as an at-large candidate on the Dallas City Council. She was a member of the ABA's House of Delegates during the 1980s and 1990s For example, while she served as President of the State Bar of Texas, Ms. Miers also logged 125 pro bono hours handling an immigration and naturalization case for Catholic Charities of Dallas. In addition to her service to the Bar and her pro bono commitments, Ms. Miers has served on the Executive Board for the Southern Methodist University School of Law and as a Trustee of the Southwestern Legal Foundation. From 1995 until 2000, Ms. Miers served as Chairwoman of the Texas Lottery Commission, a voluntary public service position she undertook while maintaining her legal practice and other responsibilities. When then-Governor Bush appointed Ms. Miers to a six-year term on the Texas Lottery Commission, it was mired in scandal, and she served as a driving force behind its cleanup. At 60 years of age, Miss Miers is hardly likely to drift from her conservative philosophy like Souter or O'Connell. She will keep the Constitution nailed down to its original intent. And, at 60 years of age, she has far more trial experience than Rehnquist.
To: jdhljc169
Souter in'na skirt(publicly).
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posted on
10/07/2005 3:02:05 AM PDT
by
johnny7
(“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
To: Gimme
So what you are saying is it's ok that a MAN is appointed but its somehow different when a 60 year old woman who has the relatively the same prior experience and background as the recently deceaseed CHIEF, Justice Renquist? Is that what you are saying?!!! Two things Renquist had going for him when appointed to the SC by Nixon back in 1972. He was in his late 40's ... not 60 like Miers. He served as Ass't Attorney General for Nixon prior to his nomination. His undergraduate degree was from Stanford, a post graduate degree in government from Harvard, then a law degree from his alma mater. He wrote 15 books over the course of his career ... Renquist was a heavy weight. Miers in contrast is a flyweight ... sort of like HS football vs. the NFL.
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posted on
10/07/2005 3:21:31 AM PDT
by
BluH2o
To: paulat
"Imagine the reaction of Republicans if President Clinton had nominated Deputy White House Counsel Cheryl Mills, who had ably represented him during his impeachment proceedings, to the Supreme Court. How about Bernie Nussbaum? "
All too true. However, my point remains the same. The selection is the President's to make - good or bad, right or wrong. We can gnash our teeth about it if we want to, in the end it is his choice and we have little to say about it. We can raise hell will out Senators and yell and scream. We may influence someone; we may not. I was not happy about Ginsberg - I am still not happy about her. What good did that do me? The same holds true now. Difference for me is that I have faith in this President and I am praying that he once again comes through as he has in the past.
To: justshutupandtakeit
So we are supposed to take your imaginings so seriously that we go against the considered judgment of a President that most of us love? She's fit in well to the culture around Bush. If I were he, I'd probably think she would be all right. The problem is that she has shwon some chameleon-like tendencies that can only be seen by someone who is not so close to the situation.
To: griffin
She's been an active Christian for 26 years dude! 26 years ago, that would be 1979. She sure didn't sound like a born-again when she ran for Dallas Council in 1989 and promised the gays everything under the sun.
To: jdhljc169
I'm reserving judgment on Ms. Mier's until I hear her speak. This, article, appears to me to be something similar when the RATS are trying to connect dots to things that are not connectible.
To: wardaddy
Evangelical does not guarantee conservative....why do so many FReepers insist on this?
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Uh, YEP! I have seen so many people change their minds just by this one fact.
To: Hank Rearden
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posted on
10/07/2005 5:16:32 AM PDT
by
TheForceOfOne
(It was a village of idiots that raised Hillary to Senator status.)
To: Seydlitz
as most Anglo-American legal doctrines are counter-intuitive in nature. Interesting take. Can you give examples?
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posted on
10/07/2005 5:22:35 AM PDT
by
maryz
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