Posted on 10/05/2005 4:51:42 PM PDT by doug from upland
Their reply to your questions may be the typical "request for privacy" lines.
my hubbie suggested that maybe it was timed to go off in the football stadium stands and he ran out of time..was trying to shut it off.
Then Boom!
If you knew what the explosive was, and wanted to detonate it, you'd probably shoot at it, not at the guy's head, which would be a difficult target in low light conditions, although it looks like he was sitting under a lamp post. so that might not have been quite as difficult. A head shot might not detonate the bomb, because the body would or could cushion the fall for the bomb. Shooting the bomb would be a better bet. I wonder it they checked for and/or found any bullets? There were people not too far away, 30-40 yards according to reports, surely they would have heard any rifle shot, even a suppressed one.
Nam Vet (ex-Uplander)
Islamic Society Of Norman
1304 George Ave Norman OK 73072
(405) 701-2332
From Yahoo, but the map shows it to be very near the campus as described on various threads.
.Minepta's mosque is there . .
W..h..y.. are there still mosques in OK?
one-of-the-biggest-bumps-in-fr-history
No, McVeigh was not recruited at Elohim City. He had casual contact with the security director there and tried to call him (I think) the night before the bombing.
Elohim City is near the Oklahoma/Arkansas border and is (was) either a center for right wing extremist, religious, illegal activity or a meeting place for federal employes.
I'm going from memory here and can't find my notes (travel journal). The FBI was represented by ? Millar and/or ? Mahon, founders and leaders of the evil community. The BATF was represented by Carol Howe. The CIA (or NSA or State Dept) was represented by Andreas Strassmeier, the security chief, who McVeigh tried to call. The FBI allowed Strassmeier to flee back to his native Germany several weeks after the bombing and them being told of his possible involvement. Ambrose Evans Pritchart (sp ?) had a great interview with A.S.
Factor in that several residents of E.C. have been convicted of serious crimes such as bank robbery, murder, etc. (One of them was executed 4-19-93) and you have a pretty good understanding of why E.C. was set up. The place was not infiltrated by the feds; it was established by them.
If you're planning your next vacation in E.C., be sure to wear your tinfoil hat. You may learn about Dr. Louis Jolyen (sp?) West, a government certified expert on mind control and a former director of MKUltra. Dr. Jolly had 2 or 3 visits with Tim while he was being held at Tinkers Air Force Base and possibly 20 more after the evil McVeigh was sent to federal penitentiary.
Unfortunately, Dr. West died in 1997 or 1998 so we'll never learn where McVeigh was recruited.
That's no mosque, that's a fortress! Nothing with that kind of security can be innocent. It is really unbelievable to see.
Either that or someone else triggered the boom remotely.
I doubt both of these theories. If he was programmed by his handlers, he wouldn't give up the mission and just kill himself for nothing. And if his handlers were watching, why would they let him leave the stadium area and go to the bench and blow him up where no one else would be killed? Watching his failed attempts to get in with the backpack, it makes more sense for them to blow him up there, right outside the stadium, in hopes of at least causing panic inside.
After failing two or three times to get into the stadium with the backpack, I believe he went to the bench to be out of sight of gate security while he took the bomb out of the pack and hid it under his clothing. He intended to make another attempt to get past security, this time with the bomb under his clothes. And while he transferred the bomb, he accidentally set it off.
I did read that a tree near where he blew was studded with holes the size of nails as well as some metallic residue or something.
Quoting Doug, here:
"The blogosphere, particularly FreeRepublic, may be the only thing that can stop Hillary Clinton from getting back into the White House. The MSM wants her there desperately. So does Geena Davis (not Jayna). I'm sure she'd get a few nights in the Lincoln Bedroom."
Lincoln bedroom, hell. I'm sure she'd get a few nights in Hillary's bdroom
Sorry but the store either doesn't sell the AN or they didn't have it in stock. The clerk said as much in an interview.
I have seen a photo taken before the bench was replaced which showed a large black scorch mark on the concrete pad, directly in front of where the original bench was. The mark was obviously cleaned before the new bench was put in.
IMO not obvious. It could be a case of ,do this or we Will kill everyone you love. The muzzies use that tactic in Iraq.
Still, it doesn't seem as if it were a powerful bomb.
a U.S. Department of Justice inventory of the contents found by law enforcement officials was visible on the seat,
I wonder if this has to do with the feedstore conversation being overheard by the plain clothes officer and if Justice searched his car at some point in time before the game. I think the authorities were watching Jihadi Joel. Also, the fact the car hasn't been impounded at this point in time also makes me think they already know what's in it....? Am I reading too much in?
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