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1 posted on 10/04/2005 12:05:28 PM PDT by gpapa
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Can we have her pastor nominated to the Court? He's got to be at least as qualified, and his views I'm sure are better known.


2 posted on 10/04/2005 12:06:01 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Aren't the "reality-based community" folks the same ones who insist there is no objective reality?)
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Last I checked, John Kerry and Ted Kennedy also attend a pro-life church.


3 posted on 10/04/2005 12:07:11 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: gpapa

This probably explains James Dobson's very positive endorsement..


4 posted on 10/04/2005 12:07:20 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: gpapa

James Dobson told Brit yesterday that he's met the pastor of her church, in the same breath as his strong endorsement of Harriet Miers.


9 posted on 10/04/2005 12:10:25 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Don't Get Stuck On Stupid!" - Lieutenant General Russell "Ragin' Cajun" Honore)
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To: gpapa
A theory posted earlier stated that Bush knew that the partial birth abortion case was scheduled for the court on Nov. 30. He needs his candidate confirmed and on the Court by that date

If Bush went for the name candidates such as Owen, Brown, Luttig or Jones he was in for a big fight. Considering the RINOs said they wouldn't support a far right candidate (code= pro-life) Bush couldn't be sure the nominee would even be confirmed much less earlier than Nov. 30.

With Miers he might be trying to stack the court for some important social decisions coming up, including partial birth. Bush has called on her confirmation by Thanksgiving (Nov. 24).

President Bush will in all likelihood get at least one more pick (almost had it yesterday when 88 year old Stevens stumbled down a flight of stairs). This pick might have been to get a solidly conservative female/minority vote on the Bench.

The next pick will be easier to nominate a white guy with a scholarly "Scalia" type record like a Luttig or McConnell.

Think of Miers as taking the up coming vacant seat of Stevens - it's easier to take. lol
19 posted on 10/04/2005 12:18:23 PM PDT by Republican Red (''Van der Sloot" is Dutch for ''Kennedy.")
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To: gpapa

WTF???

Unless I am totally out of the loop (possible) - I can think of no christian denomination which would be "pro-abortion", nor a pastor / priest. FWIW - IIRC even the Jewish and Islamic Faiths oppose abortion as do thier religious leaders.

If this is the only basis to determine whether to support someone for the USSC - well, WTF??


24 posted on 10/04/2005 12:22:28 PM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: gpapa

So is this expected to offset her stance on civil rights for gays and lesbians, or their rights to adopt children? The more I read today, the more I'm convinced there may be another Supreme Court nominee in the very near future.


26 posted on 10/04/2005 12:26:20 PM PDT by TommyDale
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Is she still a member of that church, or did she leave with Ron Key to start a new fellowship? If so why?


30 posted on 10/04/2005 12:28:09 PM PDT by kisanri
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Harriet Miers Attends Pro-Life Church, Pastor Opposes Abortion

The same could have been said about Bill Clinton's Arkansas church as well. Come to think of it, the leader of Ted Kennedy's and John Kerry's church has pretty good pro-life credentials, as does Harry Reid's.

On the other hand, George W. Bush's church tends toward pro-abortion.

So what does this story prove?

36 posted on 10/04/2005 12:34:17 PM PDT by PAR35
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Ted Kennedy is against abortion but FOR womens rights. That is how he cake walks around his religion.


42 posted on 10/04/2005 12:38:55 PM PDT by cynicom
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It hardly matters what her personal view is regarding abortion. Lots of folks are "personally" pro-life, yet they uphold Roe V. Wade as legitimate case law.

The relevant thing is Meirs' view of precedent. Given that all lawyers are grilled with the supremacy of case law, and given that Miers has nothing indicating she has an opposing judicial philosophy (which would be remarkable indeed), it is highly unlikely she would reject the orthodoxy taught in law school.

The crisis of courts extends beyond personal feelings about abortion. One must have a correct understanding of the Constitution, and respect the limits it imposes on the courts.

The Founders intended the judicial to be the weakest branch of government. Does Miers share that view? Or does she accept the modern notion that supreme law comes from the bench?

46 posted on 10/04/2005 12:40:39 PM PDT by Gelato
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Harriet Miers is going to be an AWESOME Supreme Court Justice!

I was a doubter, but as more information comes out, the more determined I am that this is a truly GREAT pick!


50 posted on 10/04/2005 12:43:10 PM PDT by Obadiah (Deuteronomy 6:5)
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To: gpapa

These are good signs..

But does she believe Roe v. Wade should be overturned? And if yes, would she act on it? I wish there were a way to know..


54 posted on 10/04/2005 12:49:07 PM PDT by k2blader (Hic sunt dracones..)
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To: gpapa

My church is pro-life, too. Unfortunately, my pastor is not.
*sigh*
It's tough being a Catholic.


56 posted on 10/04/2005 12:53:44 PM PDT by dangus
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Harriet Miers Attends Pro-Life Church

John Kerry attends one as well. Gee what are the odds of attending a pro-death Christian church.

61 posted on 10/04/2005 12:59:28 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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Meirs is probably against unlimited abortion but what she is FOR is a Global Criminal Court.. and probably why she was selected.. also Roberts.. Glabalists are content to let America agonize over domestic minutia while the big picture is being persued..

In that sense globalist supremes are more important than any domestic agenda.. i.e globalists; souter, ginsberg, stevens, breyer and now probably Roberts and soon to be Meirs.. CHECK MATE..

100 posted on 10/04/2005 1:45:10 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: gpapa

church attended should not come into the discussion. of course, her attendance of an evangelical church with a prolife pastor gives christian conservatives heart and leftie libs great pause.

jay seculow of the center for law and justice has issued an online statement of confidence in her proffessional and conservative values. he has worked with her closely on several cases where aclj has filed an amicus brief or done research for a case.

vaudine


106 posted on 10/04/2005 1:51:55 PM PDT by vaudine
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My pastor opposes abortion too....as do I.

But not all in our congregation feel the same way.

Woodmont Baptist Nashville (SBC)

Folks here are reaching for justification and ignoring bad signs basically everywhere.

Her church is not serious fundamentalist nor serious evangelical. It is a typical quasi-conservative Southern big city church. We aren't talking Texas Church of Christ or Assemblies of God or Primitive Baptist here folks. It may look serious to Yankee Roman Catholics, Anglicans and Jews but on a scale of one to ten...fundie-wise I'd give them a 7...folks should read their mission statement

Don't be fooled that it's hardcore conservative Charismatic...it ain't.
111 posted on 10/04/2005 2:01:04 PM PDT by wardaddy (stealth schmealth)
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