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To: Quark2005
You're twisting words again. People can publicly acknowledge God all they want, and should be allowed to.

Tell that to Roy Moore. Tell that to the courthouses that cannnot display the 10 commandments. Tell that to the City of Los Angeles who were sued to remove a tiny little cross from their seal by the ACLU commies, tell that to San Diego who said Boy Scouts can't use Balboa Park because they are a "religious" organization. I got a million of em. Want more examples? I follow the communist tactics of the ACLU, Americans United and Southern Poverty Law Center. I can cite scores of examples where religious expression is under assualt in this country by these hateful groups and their black-robed lackeys in the courts.

What they can't do is endorse religion on the government's bill.

That's what tyrants in black robes say, yes. You need to show me in the Constitution where it says that people can't express religious views in school, in courthouses or any other public place they want, and where it says that the government must be secular. I'm still waiting.

Sounds like you've been reading the junk on creationist websites. Try perusing a real peer-reviewed scientific journal or other such publication, and you will see that the evidence supporting evolution is stronger now than at any point in history.

Oh you mean like Richard Sternberg - who lost his job at the Natural Museum of History over a peer-reviewed article he published by Stephen Meyer that the evos didn't like? It seems the evos have the deck stacked doesn't it?

211 posted on 10/03/2005 10:03:15 AM PDT by SmartCitizen
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To: SmartCitizen
Tell that to Roy Moore. Tell that to the courthouses that cannnot display the 10 commandments. Tell that to the City of Los Angeles who were sued to remove a tiny little cross from their seal by the ACLU commies, tell that to San Diego who said Boy Scouts can't use Balboa Park because they are a "religious" organization.

I fail to see what any of these examples (all of which I would side with you on) have anything to do with the teaching of good science in public schools.

I follow the communist tactics of the ACLU, Americans United and Southern Poverty Law Center. I can cite scores of examples where religious expression is under assualt in this country by these hateful groups and their black-robed lackeys in the courts.

I'm not a fan of the ACLU either. But like I said, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

You need to show me in the Constitution where it says that people can't express religious views in school, in courthouses or any other public place they want, and where it says that the government must be secular.

I just got done saying that people can express religious views in school. Go right ahead. The USSC has endorsed the right of prayer groups to meet in public schools, for example. What the government can't do is officially endorse religion. The 1st Amendment is very clear on that.

Oh you mean like Richard Sternberg - who lost his job at the Natural Museum of History over a peer-reviewed article he published by Stephen Meyer that the evos didn't like?

The incident was a matter of procedure. Meyer's article was extremely flawed and didn't go through review by the chief editor of the Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington. Your statement is definitely an exaggeration of what really occurred there. And it's interesting to mention that even the taxonomy in Meyer's article supported evolution.

It seems the evos have the deck stacked doesn't it?

Yes, scientists do certainly have a bias against bad science. Are you trying to tell me all the findings of genetics, biogeography, paleontology and zoological morphology over the last 200 years should be brushed aside in favor of a "theory" that has no scientific support whatsoever? Evolutionary biologists do have the "deck stacked" in the form of centuries of empirical data that supports their theory.

Has a scientist observed or confirmed abiogenesis thru scientific experimentation?

No. What does this have to do with the evolution that occurred over the 3.5 billion years after life began?

There is no complete theory of abiogenesis. Scientists know that. It is not as incomplete as creationists would like to believe, however.

How about the existence of Q - when was that?

I'm not 100% sure I know what you're talking about here. If it's what I think you mean regarding a lost gospel, I don't see what it has to do in the slightest with what is being discussed here. Please clarify.

217 posted on 10/03/2005 10:30:16 AM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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