[SmartCitizen]

You asked for examples - I gave them. The people who perpetrated the lies were EVOLUTIONISTS. Period. Haekl's photos were in my science book when I was a kid, even though they were discredited 100 years ago. Explain that. The peppered moth was mischaracterized - moths were glued to the trees. If you like, I can give you the entire low-down on the peppered moth that shows the deceit involved.

Obviously they are not lies. More information is chronicled in "Icons of Evolution" by Jonathan Wells. I know...he's an idiot right! Anyone who speaks out against evolution is an idiot or a moron or a liar! (spit on the floor)

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Haekl's photos were in my science book when I was a kid, even though they were discredited 100 years ago."

Prove it. Showing pictures of embryo's of vertebrates is not showing Haeckel's drawings.

"Explain that. The peppered moth was mischaracterized - moths were glued to the trees."

Almost all nature pictures are staged; the numbers in the study were from moths observed in the field. This is a great example of how creationists lie. The peppered moth is not a hoax at all.

"More information is chronicled in "Icons of Evolution" by Jonathan Wells. I know...he's an idiot right! "

Well, yes, he is. And a liar too.

None of your examples is valid.

[highball]

You gave fradulent examples, since scientists were the ones who uncovered the frauds.

Scientists look at all new information skeptically, even if it would appear to confirm the premise they would like to prove. That's what defines science, and why ID doesn't come close to meeting that burden.

Not to mention the fact that you've listed notions that were never taken seriously by scientists, were debunked almost instantly, yet get constantly trotted out by creationists desperate to prove that evolutionists are corrupt or mistaken or liars. That's disingenuous at best.

In trying to make the point that evolutionists manufacture evidence, you've only given us yet another example of creationists doing it instead.

You're just repeating the same tired, discredited creationists lies. I'd like to believe that you're doing it out of ignorance.