[inquest]

Just for the record (just because others have tried to make a semantic issue out of this), do you consider there to be any meaningful distinction between natural and artificial, or only between natural and supernatural? There are those I've come across who insist that the only distinction worth considering here is natural vs supernatural, in which case a car would be considered "natural". I'm just trying to lock down the terminology, if you don't mind.

[bobdsmith]

Yes I think there definitely is meaningful distinction between natural and artificial. The origins of a car would be artificial imo. I would disagree with anyone who describes a car's origins as natural.