"Photosynthesis"
Yes, once again this is a living organism effecting a change in entropy. I specifically asked for examples devoid of l
living mechanisms.
How long did it take for you to come up with that one. Why not simply use your response as an example of reverse entropy?
Or do you consider yourself inanimate?
So your ultimate point is that ID seeks only to explain abiogenesis, and has nothing to do with subsequent evolution?
"Photosynthesis"
Yes, once again this is a living organism effecting a change in entropy. I specifically asked for examples devoid of l living mechanisms.
Actually your request was: So please show me an example of reverse entropy occuring in nature comparable to the act of animating the inanimate? You do understand that you must show me a natural example, i.e. devoid of intelligent, living, input.
A plant has no intelligence, and the inputs to the process, CO2, water, and sunlight are non-living. The plant through photosynthesis "animates the inanimate," the water, CO2, and sunlight.
The plant as it grows will exhibit an increase in complexity i.e. a reduction in entropy, though the level of entropy of the entire Solar System is increasing.
Photosynthesis is a perfectly appropriate response to your request in the context of this thread, where MHalblaub stated (and you quoted him): "This statement of yours shows you have no idea what you are talking about. Inside a closed system the entropy is increasing but that says nothing how parts of that system behave. Please go and read some science books about that before repeating such nonsense."
Earth and the biosphere are not "closed systems," they are part of the Solar System. If a single plant can use the energy of the Sun to increase its complexity, (and in a sense reduce its entropy) than so can the Earth's biosphere as a whole, and so can the "Tree of Life."
By your response you seem to have totally moved the goal posts, what you seem to asking for is a demonstration of abiogenisis; the initial creation of life itself; by asking for this you have in effect conceded that "entropy" is not a barrior to biological evolution after life's initial start.
How long did it take for you to come up with that one.
About one second.
Why not simply use your response as an example of reverse entropy? Or do you consider yourself inanimate?
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