Posted on 09/30/2005 2:03:49 PM PDT by Little Bill
I have always wondered if Crete might be Atlantis despite not being beyond the Pillars of Hercules.
Does anyone remember a print of the Cross Covered with a Bull or Goat's head. It was a symbol of one of the later day Roman caesars Julian the Apostate. Can you point me to that print? Thanks in advance. Regards!
A more intriguing
interpretation is that
of astrology
and the precession
of the equinox. In this
belief, the theory
is that the statues
of, say, bulls, were created
as celebrations
of the era of
Taurus. This tin foil belief
typically assumes
civilization
is much older than normal
timelines allow for.
There are two views that can be taken. 1.) They came by boat, this would preserve the time line on the Peopling of the Americas and preserve a lot of reputations. 2.) They walked which would extend the time lines and destroy a lot of reputations.
I tend to follow Blam, he has posted the most on this, that the first major people in the Americas came from the East for the most part. I have never felt comfortable with the land bridge theory. It seems to me that the proponents of this are trying to make the facts fit the theory.
As for Atlantis, Plato was pretty specific on the description, Crete don't fit.
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The trouble with Plato's description is nothing fits it. I guess the Azores maybe but there doesn't appear to have ever been any real civilization on those islands.
I do think though, that most myths, Campbell sucks, have a basis in fact, you have to look at the edge to see them, see Jason, a map and a current chart of the Aegean Sea helps also.
I wholeheartedly agree. Plato put Atlantis in the Atlantic, any way preclude that drowned lands exist elsewhere. But trying to have Plato tell us about places he'd never even dreamed of is like looking for your lost contact lens out where the light's better. :')
Monte Verde shows that humans have been in the Americas longer than the Clovis - First - and - Only bias permits. This hasn't got anything to do with Atlantis (other than speculative of course), it has to do with humans being able to get around by boat for at least 800,000 years, and imaginary barriers being constructed in the 19th and 20th century to fit a parochial political isolationism.
The reason I think Crete fits is I suspect ancient Greeks from around 2500BC were not really civilized but they did travel the Mediterannean. They would have thought of the Minoans as tremendously advanced, (rightly so in my opinion).
Well this idea of a great civilzation in the middle of the ocean would have spread. Then some time, around 1700 BC, the civilization was temporarily destroyed. This would also have found it's way to Greece.
Eventually the story of a great civilization, which flourished on an island, then disappeared could easily evolved into Atlantis.
You might want to look up Eberhard Zanagger, a Geo Archaeologist who has some rather strong opinions on early Greek history. He does answer letters, see the "Flood from Heaven" to start with.
That strikes me as about as far off the mark as it is possible to get while still remaining in the general area.
He has a critique of the Critas, which I read only in part, because I am not interested in it.
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"Two sons were born to Eber:
One was named Peleg, because in his time the earth
was divided; his brother was named Joktan."
Genesis 10:25
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If scientists are wildly wrong on when the supercontinent broke up; If, in fact, it broke in Biblical times and that event is recounted in the story of Babel, other civilizations would have their own view. "Atlantis" might be one such. The bunched-up land mass supercontinent might have seemed circular to those living on it. (An odd study of the language of place names seems to support this view.) |
I think Sundaland fits the bill. (It's not in the Atlantic though.)
I don't think I have ever heard of Sundaland. Where is it located?
Sundaland is an area around present day Indonesia and Malaysia, it was twice the size of present day India. It went underwater at the end of the Ice Age. It was one of the best places on earth to live during the Ice Age and humans and their cultures flourished there. .
Dr Robert Schoch, in his book, Voyages Of The Pyramid Builders, explains how the refugees from Sundaland took their custom of pyramid building all over the world when they fled their flooded homeland.
Professor Stephen Oppenheimer, in his book, Out Of Eden, explains how these people made their way to various parts of the world and were likely the Sumerians and even the 'wise men from the east' mentioned in the Bible and the Gilgamesh writings, etc.
Both excellent reading.
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