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To: Tax-chick

"...makes it clear that the basis of the controversy is religion".

But the trustworthy scientists keep telling us that science is 'value - neutral', and that there is nothing religious about what they are up to. They keep saying "trust us". Sort of like the Doctors at St. Vincents, who told the liver transplant patients ...'trust us to be fair about the waiting list'. And then we find out the Saudi man with his new liver, and his lots of money can corrupt Doctors too..

Oh wait: bio - scientists ... the PhD types .. they are not suseptible to such temptations about money. And fame...

I keep forgetting that tidbit.


15 posted on 09/28/2005 6:47:39 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: gobucks

It goes without saying that scientists are smarter, more honest, and more rational than the rest of us. Didn't you get the memo where it told us that we weren't allowed to question this?

For example, we're not allowed to ask why a person with a Ph.D. in, for example, "Theory of Combustion" or "Polymer Engineering," should know anything more about the origins of life than any literate human being. He's a Scientist, you know!


19 posted on 09/28/2005 6:51:58 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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To: gobucks
Oh wait: bio - scientists ... the PhD types .. they are not suseptible to such temptations about money. And fame...

Boy are you anti-science. I guess you never took advantage of any of the technological acheivements in the last 100 years that arose from science. Either that or you got poor grades in science and now want to bash the heck oout of the people that do this sort of thing for a living. Yes, they are human like everyone else and they have their share of flaws, but that does not give you the right to bash them for spending almost a decade studying some very advanced subjects that most people would not be able to understand. Almost all of the scientist that have ever lived are alive today. Yet there is a great reluctance on the part of many people to actually talk to real, live scientists to even understand what science is and what they do. There is an incredible amount of knowledge out there that people like you don't even consider to be of relevance or importance even though that knowledge is the foundation for how we live today.

The idea of the 'trust us' mentailty is far removed from the truth. If you don't want to believe what scientists say, you are free to conduct your own research and publish your own results. Science encourages study and verification. Science is very open. The outrage scientists show results from people without even the slightest education of background trying to criticize somehting they haven't even educated themselves on. That's why I've posted repeatedly that ID will be the death of science. You have to throw out all of science in order for ID to be scientifically valid.

63 posted on 09/28/2005 7:43:11 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: gobucks
But the trustworthy scientists keep telling us that science is 'value - neutral', and that there is nothing religious about what they are up to.

Guys like Galileo? That kind of scientist?

88 posted on 09/28/2005 8:52:31 AM PDT by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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