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To: faireturn
You claim that: " -- As a society we remain guilty of the fuzzy thinking that tolerates a culture of death. -- " Yet you " -- agree that it is not helpful to extrapolate from the general to the specific. -- " I find a dichotomy in those two thoughts.. Can you explain?

I am not sure I understand your concern. I was referring to John's concern that we guilt trip ourselves individually by acceding to general complaints. In a politicized society such as our it is always the case that there are dominant themes - such as political correctness - that are anathema to some individuals. I may personally disagree with some politically correct attitude such as open borders which the society at large tolerates and even encourages.

I believe there is a meaningful distinction to be made between the WE of cultural character and the ME of individual character. They are not each the same in all times and places.

I referred directly to the writer's admonition that WE are engaged in a culture of death. In that abortion and STDs are dominant themes in the life of this culture, I would maintain that this culture is thereby engaged in activities that promote innocent and needless death. Society tolerates these behaviors. It does not stop them.

I am not sure where we are going with this. What do you believe is the salient issue between the WE and the ME?

58 posted on 09/27/2005 8:43:59 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (THIS IS WAR AND I MEAN TO WIN IT.)
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To: Amos the Prophet
You claim that:
" -- As a society we remain guilty of the fuzzy thinking that tolerates a culture of death. --
Yet you: "-- agree that it is not helpful to extrapolate from the general to the specific. -- "
I find a dichotomy in those two thoughts.. Can you explain?

I am not sure I understand your concern.
I believe there is a meaningful distinction to be made between the WE of cultural character and the ME of individual character. They are not each the same in all times and places. I referred directly to the writer's admonition that WE are engaged in a culture of death.
In that abortion and STDs are dominant themes in the life of this culture, I would maintain that this culture is thereby engaged in activities that promote innocent and needless death. Society tolerates these behaviors. It does not stop them.
I am not sure where we are going with this. What do you believe is the salient issue between the WE and the ME?

Our society in the USA is bound by our Constitution, correct?
You see some activities as a 'culture of death' -- that others see as constitutional issues. Can you acknowledge that you are bound to use constitutional means to resolve those salient issues?


In your earlier post to me, you claimed:

WE are responsible [for Auschwitz] just as surely as we are responsible for slavery in our country's history.

Speak for yourself Amos. -- We the people of the USA are bound by our Constitution, in which we abolished slavery, but wherein we have not yet assumed responsibility for policing the world.. -- And I doubt we could, even if asked.

We in the US, when we follow the constitution, celebrate a culture of freedom, not death.
I can agree that many of our constitutional principles are not being followed. -- Can you?

62 posted on 09/27/2005 9:23:35 AM PDT by faireturn
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