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To: John W
Should we really know all the details about the President's body armor?

I don't think so.

2 posted on 09/26/2005 7:29:49 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming
I think we should.

This company is in hot water and should be held accountable for its alleged criminal behavior.

Prosecutors have gathered documents showing that Second Chance was alerted as early as 1998 by the Japanese material maker, Toyobo Co., that Zylon had trouble maintaining its protective properties.

By 2001, Second Chance's research chief, Aaron Westrick, was pleading unsuccessfully with his company's president to replace the vests after his own tests showed them degrading, the memos show.

"Lives and our credibility are at stake,'' Westrick wrote then-Second Chance president Richard Davis in a Dec. 18, 2001, memo. "We will only prevail if we do the right things and not hesitate. This issue should not be hidden for obvious safety issues and because of future litigation.''

Westrick urged Davis to "immediately notify our customers of the degradation problems,'' let those with pending orders cancel them and cease all executive bonuses to save money so the company could pay for a replacement initiative, the memo shows.

Obviously the secret service figured it out and we are being told of it after the fact.

4 posted on 09/26/2005 7:36:07 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: Siena Dreaming

Well, any seriously protective armor would be pretty heavy. Anything easily wearable without showing out too much would have to be light - and thus of limited protective efficiency. Maybe the best way to protect him would be a complete plastic surgery makeover together with drastic change of routines, so that very few people would ever know what the president looks like and would be able to tell him from Adam.


7 posted on 09/26/2005 7:42:41 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Siena Dreaming; John W

I totally agree .. this should not be made public.

Of course, I would presume the President is no longer wearing that old body armour .. but why even make it public that he was so vulnerable.

I don't like it .. but seeing that it comes from NBC ...


11 posted on 09/26/2005 8:19:49 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: Siena Dreaming
Should we really know all the details about the President's body armor? I don't think so.

It's common sense, really. The most protection you can get from flexible body armor you can get is called Level IIIA. It's still ridiculously lightweight. There've been huge advances in ballistic armor in the last five years - IIIA vests weigh the same as a IIA (lighter, less protection) did five years ago. It's just common sense that the President would wear a IIIA vest.

Another poster mentioned that it wouldn't stop a .44 mag, or it wouldn't stop rifle rounds. That's true. The only way to stop those rounds is with hard plate.

26 posted on 09/27/2005 5:55:34 AM PDT by Terabitten (God grant me the strength to live a life worthy of those who have gone before me.)
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