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His stance on ethanol sets Cal professor apart
Contra Costa Times ^ | 9/26/5 | Judy Silber

Posted on 09/26/2005 7:39:01 AM PDT by SmithL

It began benignly enough as an assignment for the 15 freshmen in Tad Patzek's UC Berkeley college seminar class. But it soon mushroomed into something much larger.

Patzek found himself in the national spotlight as his scientific paper published in June touched raw nerves throughout the nation's energy and farm industries. Gas prices were climbing higher; Congress was in the midst of drafting an energy policy; and the article criticized one possible solution -- making ethanol fuel from corn.

Hundreds of newspapers wrote about the publication. E-mails flooded Patzek's in-box. People yelled at him over the phone. He was invited to the National Press Club in Washington to debate the issue and to Chicago to speak to investors.

Patzek and David Pimentel, a Cornell scientist who had been a lone public voice against corn ethanol for more than 30 years, argued that corn ethanol did the environment more harm than good. Growing corn, fertilizing the fields, transporting it to the factories and then out to where it was needed took more energy than the resulting ethanol would ultimately generate, they said.

Detractors, including corn growers, federal government researchers and other academics, took offense at Patzek's stance. They saw ethanol as an environment-friendly way of reducing the nation's dependence on foreign fossil fuels.

Opponents pointed to Patzek's oil industry days, saying he had ulterior motives. They said he and Pimentel knew nothing about agriculture and had relied on irrelevant data. They even criticized the premise of Patzek's arguments, which were based on the first and second laws of thermodynamics.

Patzek, 52, took the criticisms in stride. He is a mostly good-humored man who possesses an unflappable, but not pretentious, confidence in his intellect. And having grown up in post-World War II Poland under the Communist regime, he already knew well the role of rebel.

Patzek's rebellious roots extend at least as far back as his grandfather, a Polish officer during World War II who spent five years in a German concentration camp. To stave off the boredom and despair that permeated the camp, Patzek's grandfather, a physicist, taught physics to anyone who would listen, and organized a theater.

In postwar Poland, Patzek's father also rebelled. He joined a student militia group when the Russian army liberated the town of Gliwice where he was studying at the university. When he fired on Russian soldiers threatening some women, he was expelled, although later allowed to return. He also refused to join the Communist party, though the choice meant he could not teach despite a doctorate in chemical engineering.

As a young boy, his father continually quizzed Patzek, giving him hypothetical situations, then asking him to decide between right and wrong.

In high school, Patzek took his education into his own hands. He liked learning on his own better than at school and began staying home three of six days to study. When his teachers got wind of his program, they agreed to it, but only if he met higher standards than the other students.

Patzek rebelled against Communism in high school and college. His views were so well-known that like his father he was forbidden to teach at Silesian Technical University after graduating with a master's degree. Communist officials told him he would "deprive the Polish youth of their innocence."

While a graduate student at the Polish Academy of Sciences, Patzek, then 26, helped organize the first Solidarity chapter at the chemical engineering center -- before it was legal to do so.

If the foundation of his defiance was laid in Poland, so too was a fierce loyalty to the environment. His family's house lay on the edge of fields and forest that stretched as far as the eye could see. Returning for a visit to Poland in 1991 after 10 years in the United States, he saw the destruction wrought by industrialization. Large homes had replaced the fields. Gone were the swamp, creeks, frogs and storks.

"It was affirmation of what I already knew," he said. "That we humans do a lot of bad things to the environment."

Patzek's life is nearly consumed by his work. "He is a workaholic, that's for sure," said his wife of 25 years, Joanna.

When not at work, he's often reading, late at night and during meals. He even reads while they watch a movie, though that doesn't stop him from commenting, she said. Typical books have titles such as "Carbon-Nitrogen-Sulfur, the Environmental Science of Dirty Water," "The Solar Fraud: Why Solar Energy Won't Run the World" and the three-part volume of "A History of Common Human Delusions."

At parties and at the dinner table, he's always teaching or prompting discussions around "what we should and shouldn't do," Joanna Patzek said. Current topics include saving water with shorter showers, dangerous chemicals in cosmetics and, of course, ethanol.

In his personal life, Patzek thinks somewhat obsessively about how to be a good citizen to the environment. During the summer, he rides his bike a few times a week to UC Berkeley from the Oakland hills. He drives his Nissan Altima, which gets 34 miles per gallon, only about 8,000 miles a year. Walks on the beach were never just that; he, his wife and their three grown children are always armed with bags to pick up trash. Insulating his house is an ongoing project, and he plans to try solar panels on the roof.

But until he joined the corn ethanol debate, Patzek's professional work didn't touch directly on environmental concerns. Instead, he focused on energy, working for seven years at Shell Development Co. His contribution to society was to help provide the fossil fuels it needed, he told himself.

By the time he left Shell, his philosophical views had changed. "I realized that society will never have enough energy," Patzek said. "We are incurable addicts. Our national policy is to satisfy the addict."

As a professor at UC Berkeley, he continued research that looked at how to efficiently extract fossil fuels. But he was bothered by the increasing environmental damage done as the oil fields became depleted. He began thinking about how he as a scientist could take a bigger, more relevant and more holistic approach to society's problems.

The ethanol corn debate may have thrust him into just that. What started almost as a whim after reading a book by Pimentel has become much larger. Patzek is now planning a center at UC Berkeley to take a careful look at all energy sources, including fossil fuels, biofuels like ethanol, solar and nuclear. He wants scientists to devise a common framework for evaluating the advantages and disadvantages of each. Such a forum is necessary to inform U.S. policy, he said.

Patzek's opponents on the other side of the corn ethanol discussion have similar concerns about the diminishing supply of fossil fuels.

But to hear them debate one can't help but wonder whether either hears anything the other says. Each accuses the other of misrepresenting, misusing and excluding data, as well as not understanding the full scope of the problem. And while supporters argue corn ethanol can be part of the energy solution, Patzek argues vehemently that it cannot.

"However you look at it, this is a rather inefficient way of concentrating solar energy into fuel," he said. It takes more energy to make ethanol than what is produced, he said.

In addition, he argues that ultimately, ethanol can contribute only a single-digit portion of the nation's fuel. Yet it causes environmental damage with pesticides and fertilizers, and co-opts land that could otherwise be dedicated to food.

There is no magic bullet to replace fossil fuels, Patzek said. He says the United States drastically needs to reduce its energy use. Fuel efficiency standards need to rise. People must commute less by living closer to work. Food should be produced locally, instead of shipped and trucked from far-away places.

Patzek's harshest critics in the corn ethanol debate say he is ignorant and arrogant.

"I think he needs to do his homework, spend some time actually learning things before he talks about them," said Bruce Dale, a professor of chemical engineering and materials science at Michigan State University.

Friendlier opponents, like Rick Tolman, CEO of the National Corn Growers Association, say Patzek has no practical knowledge of farms or a typical ethanol production plant. Nonetheless, Patzek earned Tolman's respect at the National Press Club debate when he remained composed and friendly even when eight people consecutively stood up to shoot his logic down.

Then there are those who say they want to continue the conversation.

"Patzek's point is the same as ours," said John Sheehan, a senior engineer at the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Colorado. "The size of the energy problem is huge."

For the sake of the country, the differences between the two sides should be worked out, Sheehan said.

"It has to be worked out," he said. "Because this country has to make rational choices."

Reach Judy Silber at 925-977-8507 or jsilber@cctimes.com.



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To: -YYZ-

Ill move into a 1500 sq foot house the same time Barbara Streisand moves out of here 8,000 sq foot mansion into a trailer house.


321 posted on 09/26/2005 1:10:22 PM PDT by Voltage
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To: Mr. Lucky

No, boy. The ethanol itself has been denatured, unless one is planning on outlaw moonshine. The excise tax cops are eager to stomp on stills and administer heavy fines for making one's own non-poisonous ethanol fuel additive.


322 posted on 09/26/2005 1:17:47 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: antiRepublicrat

The Explorer is loosely based on the Ranger platform. However, it is basically a unique powertrain at this point in time.

Just basing commonality across powertrains is not a good way to then compare safety. The structural additions to the expedition over the F-150 have been substantial, and as a result the Expedition has very little commonality with the F-150.


323 posted on 09/26/2005 1:18:12 PM PDT by CSM ( It's all Bush's fault! He should have known Mayor Gumbo was a retard! - Travis McGee (9/2))
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

"Look, you're not paying attention. You spout the free-market rhetoric admirably, but you do it at the most facile level, meaning you have no big picture view."

Ah, classic liberal technique: "YOU DON'T SEE THE BIG PICTURE!"

way to go on that one.

Here's a way to answer your own claims:

What would reagan do?

Would he advocate more government control or less?

You already know the answer, but you argue for the opposite.

You are no conservative, and you don't give a damn about individual liberty. So stop trying to claim otherwise.


324 posted on 09/26/2005 1:23:03 PM PDT by flashbunny (Do you believe in the Constitution only until it keeps the government from doing what you want?)
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To: GreenFreeper

See post 216 in this thread to start. (Sorry I missed your reply initially!) Then Google with this combination:

-- switchgrass "cellulosic ethanol"

and you'll get a lot of pretty good links.


325 posted on 09/26/2005 1:23:44 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: usslsm51

"This will never happen."

It already did happen once, so your comment that it will NEVER happen is obviously false.


326 posted on 09/26/2005 1:39:31 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: usslsm51

"The only practical way to save gas is cutting speed."

We could cut the top speed back to 35 MPH and then we would save fuel and cut traffic deaths. A five horse power moped can go 35 mph and gets 150 MPG. Perfect!


327 posted on 09/26/2005 1:41:20 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: SevenDaysInMay
"Remember MtBE ruining some California's aquifers for generations, costing tens of million$ to "remediate"?"

I remember some hype about this put out by the liberals, but how is MTBE so much more toxic than regular gasoline, which is about 4% benzene? Benzene is toxic, is it not? That is why the government forced everyone to dig up their old gas tanks and use secondary containment and leak detection systems. Those underground storage tank regulations went into effect well before MTBE was put into the gasoline, so just how did the MTBE get into the aquifers?
328 posted on 09/26/2005 1:47:41 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: usslsm51
The only practical way to save gas is cutting speed. Cutting the speed from 70 to 55 saves 33 to 35% in fuel.

It didn't work the last time we tried it, so I'm not about to try it again. Besides, SUV's poor highway economy mostly comes not from the big engine or tank-like mass, but from having the aerodynamics of a brick. City mileage is where these 5,000 pound behemoths really lose due to their mass, and cutting highway speeds won't help that.

329 posted on 09/26/2005 1:52:14 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: flashbunny
Reagan would say, "If we have to tax folks to pay for the military to protect the flow of oil, then the folks who use that oil should be the ones paying the tax."

But if being conservative means FORCING people to pay for someone else's use of a resource, then you're right, I am not a conservative. Your definition seems to be "conserve my own money by making other people pay for part of what I want." Yeah, I'm the liberal NOT.

Finally, it just might be possible that you are missing the big picture, and you're just angry that I have the chutzpah to point it out in an open forum. So, please calm down. Explain to me, without resorting to name calling, why it is OK that the total cost of a gallon of gasoline should NOT be included in the price at the pump, since that is the position that you are taking.

330 posted on 09/26/2005 1:52:19 PM PDT by Liberty Tree Surgeon
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To: SmithL
Another alternative

"Geologists tell us there are enough latent heat units (BTUs) in America’s coal reserves to last us for a couple of millenia, give or take a few centuries. The LTC process is all it would take to dispel the monopoly myth that we must depend on Arabian princes to regulate our thermostats until......"

The rest of the story...http://www.tomvalentine.com/html/karrick2.html

331 posted on 09/26/2005 1:55:15 PM PDT by patriot_wes (papal infallibility - a proud tradition since 1869)
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To: flashbunny
OK, saw your link to the immigration site, which gives an opportunity to explain myself in terms nearer to your heart. Economically, what is the impact of hiring an illegal? The open-borders crowd would say we get to reduce the cost of labor, and thus pass on the savings to the consumer in the form of lower prices. This leaves out the externality of the government services all consumers have to provide to educate, medicate, shelter, feed, or otherwise support the worker and any family member s/he brought with them. When you add that economic cost, plus non-economic costs such as creating a cycle of lawlessness, the net result is uncontrolled illegal immigration being a net detriment. Same thing with having to spend so much in money and lives in the Mid-East - add that to the cost of gasoline (and other derivatives), and people would be forced (oops, couldn't help that word) to make more logical, free-market choices.

Make sense?

332 posted on 09/26/2005 2:03:00 PM PDT by Liberty Tree Surgeon
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To: usslsm51
"Cutting the speed from 70 to 55 saves 33 to 35% in fuel."

No it does not. There is essentially no change between those speeds.

333 posted on 09/26/2005 2:07:19 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
"Finally, it just might be possible that you are missing the big picture, and you're just angry that I have the chutzpah to point it out in an open forum"

Uh, no. All you're doing is making a fool of yourself on an open forum.

But I appreciate it when a person who claims to be 'conservative' outs themselves as liberals in public.

"So, please calm down."

Uh, sparky, I'm not really exited. Don't inflate your ego so much that you think you can 'excite' me.

"Explain to me, without resorting to name calling, why it is OK that the total cost of a gallon of gasoline should NOT be included in the price at the pump, since that is the position that you are taking."

Free market. It's included in the price of gas already.

If you want to punish people for the actions of government, that is NOT a conservative or liberty oriented position. It is a liberal and statist one.

The conservative position, as I stated before - is to get the government out of it. Not get it more involved. Here, let me quote RWR:

"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. From time to time we've been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else? All of us together, in and out of government, must bear the burden. The solutions we seek must be equitable, with no one group singled out to pay a higher price."

Gee, that pretty much sounds EXACTLY like what I've been saying, and EXACTLY the opposite of what you've been saying!

How much gas a person uses determines how much they pay, not some silly government policy you dream up to force people to change their behavior (again, not a conservative position there).

Yet in your childish "give government more power" rants, you can't seem to equate the fact that a person buying 3X the gas is already paying 3X the costs.

You want to pile on extra penalties above and beyond that.

That has nothing to do with free market principles. Free market principles, which are the cornerstone of the conservative philosophy and personal liberty.

Oh wait, I'm not seeing the "big picture" Is that your "uber claim" when someone calls you on your big-government positions?

You want nothing more than to enact the goals of the left - punish the choices that consumers are making of their own free will. Then you make bizarre claims that you are the 'conservative' one, confuse 'responsibility' with 'law', and then, when your crazy scheme is revealed to be nothing more than your personal whims and biases, you throw out the claim that those who oppose you don't see the "big picture".

I'd say that's an accurate summary of things so far.

So come on, tell me the other areas in life where you want government to tax the choices made by law abiding citizens in order to make them do what you want. I'm sure it's all very "liberty" oriented.

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...
334 posted on 09/26/2005 2:12:31 PM PDT by flashbunny (Do you believe in the Constitution only until it keeps the government from doing what you want?)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
"The US has to maintain a military presence in the Mid-East to keep the oil flowing to the world. As long as that is the case, the cost of a barrel of oil does not include the cost of securing it, so there is no current free market for energy."

The cost of a barrel of oil is what the folks that buy it pay for it. The cost of govm't protecting rights is contained in the tax bill.

335 posted on 09/26/2005 2:14:19 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Ninian Dryhope
"how did the MTBE get into the aquifers?"

Spills. MTBE runs right down with the water. The hydrophobic components in the gas don't. They tend to layer on top the aquifer.

336 posted on 09/26/2005 2:18:13 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Hendrix
. People are driving SUVS and trucks because they are in style (its a fad). Most people do very little hauling of any kind

More like once a week, judging by the parking lot at the local Costco.

Maybe the local Costco isn't a representative sample, but you provided no justification for your 'most people' comment either.

337 posted on 09/26/2005 2:21:42 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: flashbunny

I'm not sure about the magnitude (or existence) of federal subsidies, but I know that in MN the ethanol fuel industry is viable with state subsidy now.


338 posted on 09/26/2005 2:27:39 PM PDT by newguy357
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To: spunkets

"Spills."

Right through the secondary containment systems and despite the leak detection and overfill protection systems? How does it do that?


339 posted on 09/26/2005 2:28:15 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: SevenDaysInMay
Folksy affectations aside, you're a little bit confused.

Ethanol is "denatured" when it is blended with a poisonous agent. With fuel alcohol, that agent is gasoline.

340 posted on 09/26/2005 2:29:55 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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