Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Dispute over evolution goes on trial in U.S. court
Baltimore Sun ^ | September 26, 2005 | Arthur Hirsch

Posted on 09/26/2005 1:53:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 181-200201-220221-240 ... 401-404 next last
To: mlc9852
Scientists have not nor will they ever be able to "prove" evolution. But that isn't to say that shouldn't keep trying.

My, your memory is bad today isn't it. Just like always.

201 posted on 09/26/2005 11:01:19 AM PDT by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 199 | View Replies]

To: Antonello
Unless, of course, the other definition would make a good weapon for your side, in which case a little deliberate misconstruing is forgivable since it is more important to win than to be truthful, right?

Otherwise known as the "Fallacy of Equivocation".....

202 posted on 09/26/2005 11:01:34 AM PDT by longshadow
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 164 | View Replies]

To: Thatcherite

Don't worry - the truth shall set you free.


203 posted on 09/26/2005 11:03:01 AM PDT by mlc9852
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 201 | View Replies]

To: mlc9852

Yeah, they think they have a corner on the intellectual market.


204 posted on 09/26/2005 11:03:17 AM PDT by hyperkitty (DON'T PANIC)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 200 | View Replies]

To: Thatcherite
The key thing about scientific theories is that they should make successful predictions about as-yet unobserved data-points.

OK, what is one prediction concerning the future evolution of any existing species? Note: I won't be particularly impressed if the "prediction" has something to do with a virus "evolving" to another strain - after all, it would still be a virus, yes?

205 posted on 09/26/2005 11:04:58 AM PDT by KMJames
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 193 | View Replies]

To: hyperkitty
What kind of scientific term is that?

Good enough for the drivel I was answering. :-)

206 posted on 09/26/2005 11:05:37 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 192 | View Replies]

To: Thatcherite

"The key thing about scientific theories is that they should make successful predictions about as-yet unobserved data-points."

OK, so what is the scientific community's prediction about the next step in the evolutionary process?


207 posted on 09/26/2005 11:08:18 AM PDT by hyperkitty (DON'T PANIC)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 193 | View Replies]

To: Thatcherite
By your words, I know you.

Doesn't that just sum it all up!

208 posted on 09/26/2005 11:11:47 AM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 198 | View Replies]

To: RadioAstronomer
Good enough for the drivel I was answering. :-)

It was a lot more polite than just saying "Bullsh!t!" too.

209 posted on 09/26/2005 11:13:10 AM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 206 | View Replies]

To: KMJames
>The key thing about scientific theories is that they should make successful predictions about as-yet unobserved data-points.

OK, what is one prediction concerning the future evolution of any existing species? Note: I won't be particularly impressed if the "prediction" has something to do with a virus "evolving" to another strain - after all, it would still be a virus, yes?

The ToE predicted that a certain percentage of genetic flaws and harmful mutations in one species would be found in another that descended from a common ancestor. The recently completed mapping of the chimpanzee genome put that prediction to the test. And it passed.

210 posted on 09/26/2005 11:18:08 AM PDT by Antonello
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 205 | View Replies]

To: KMJames
OK, what is one prediction concerning the future evolution of any existing species?

When did I mention a prediction like that? Many other types of prediction are possible.

211 posted on 09/26/2005 11:18:53 AM PDT by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 205 | View Replies]

To: hyperkitty; KMJames
OK, so what is the scientific community's prediction about the next step in the evolutionary process?

Evolutionary biologists cannot predict the course of evolution in the distant future any better than a meteorologist can predict the weather in the distant future. That's not the sort of "prediction" being discussed here.

Some examples of successful predictions made by evolutionary theory

212 posted on 09/26/2005 11:19:06 AM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 207 | View Replies]

To: hyperkitty
OK, so what is the scientific community's prediction about the next step in the evolutionary process?

That it will occur.

213 posted on 09/26/2005 11:19:16 AM PDT by Antonello
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 207 | View Replies]

To: mlc9852

I'm not worried. I'm already free from ignorance.


214 posted on 09/26/2005 11:19:44 AM PDT by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 203 | View Replies]

To: Thatcherite

Don't get too over-confident - there is always someone out there smarter than you (though you may find that hard to believe).


215 posted on 09/26/2005 11:21:25 AM PDT by mlc9852
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 214 | View Replies]

To: mlc9852

Loads of people out there are smarter than me, including lots of people in these FR debates, and I've told you that before, so I don't know why you repeat that particular ad-hominem.


216 posted on 09/26/2005 11:22:49 AM PDT by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 215 | View Replies]

To: mlc9852

Did you take some time to look at the links I provided yet?


217 posted on 09/26/2005 11:23:37 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 215 | View Replies]

To: Antonello

OK, so what is the scientific community's prediction about the next step in the evolutionary process?

That it will occur.

Brillant...


218 posted on 09/26/2005 11:24:41 AM PDT by hyperkitty (DON'T PANIC)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 213 | View Replies]

To: All
Here's a bit of history regarding evolution litigation:

Eight Significant Court Decisions.
The Evolution Controversy. Scopes trial and some Supreme Court cases.
Clarence Darrow’s Examination of William Jennings Bryan. From the Scopes trial transcript.
Freiler v Tangipahoa Parish Board of Education. Louisiana school's evolution disclaimer decision.
Tangipahoa Parish Board of Education v. Freiler. US Sup Ct denied certiorari, Scalia & Thomas dissenting.
Selman v. Cobb County School District. The Georgia textbook sticker case.
McLean v. Arkansas Board of Education (1982). Arkansas statute for "balanced treatment" of "creation-science" & "evolution-science" is unConstitutional.

219 posted on 09/26/2005 11:24:57 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Disclaimer -- this information may be legally false in Kansas.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 215 | View Replies]

To: Thatcherite

That would be "smarter than I".


220 posted on 09/26/2005 11:27:28 AM PDT by mlc9852
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 216 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 181-200201-220221-240 ... 401-404 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson